re: Why can’t we reload?

This is a Team Mentality. And that is great. However the shift needs to focus towards a "Program" and something that these kids can buy into, feel, appreciate, develop, take pride in and have the feeling like they are continuing to build once they leave!

You look at Bama and Clemson specifically. Those are Winning PROGRAMS, not just Winning Teams but PROGRAMS.

From day 1 on recruiting it has to be about BUILDING A PROGRAM and NOT just about "I can get you to the NFL"

Coaches need to tell these kids that are 4th & 5th round draft picks you might have better luck staying one more year to develop so that you actually make a roster and not get processed out because you couldn't make the team. a 4th and 5th year at LSU is probably much better than getting cut your first or second year! then what for the whole rest of your life?



But what if I get hurt? But what WHEN YOU GET CUT?

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LSU went through a coaching change and some attrition. The roster was not up to LSU standards when Coach O took over. Several positions groups were severely below par. No QB in any of those classes.

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gosh, how in the world did we ever win the NC in 2019 with this terrible roster?

And O's first full year was 2017 so he's had a full 4-year cycle of recruiting. We should be humming now.

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Overall, LSU has a 3 years and declare culture problem. I can't think of another school (not saying another isn't out there) that has 3rd yr players, not even have first 5 round draft grade, declare like LSU has had the last 10 years. LSU has had multiple players, declare early and not even get drafted. It used to be, if you were a lock for first 3 rounds, GO get paid. Now...

For this year:
All draft eligible players declared (unbelievable draft class, cant really blame any of them...Thad Moss should have stayed)

Opt Out - Chase, TS, Vincent (Team would look a lot better, but still would take some lumps), brooks transfer hurt as well

If you can't SLOW the early departures for 1-2 years... you better be landing top 3 classes every year!

You also better be shopping in the Transfer portal

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All of this

Be patient, we're working to get there.

All of those teams aside from Bama aren't really teams that have reloaded consistently.
Oklahoma has lost to KSU 2 consecutive seasons and don't really match up well once outside of big 12 play. Not sure it's really reloading when you aren't really loaded to begin with
OSU lost to fricking Purdue 2 years ago and again haven't won anything aside from the "got hot" instance in 16. They've missed the playoffs 2 or 3 times. Also I'm not convinced the Big 10 is as strong as computers and media make it out to be. Lot of dogs in that conference.
Clemson is a short term example. By the measure of time being used it's the same comparison, thus far, as the Carroll USC years. Also helps they play in a disaster if a conference. They are however the 2nd best example based on the past 4-5 years. Helps they've had 2 transcendent QBs in that time
Bama is the only truly reload and that's obvious as to why. They have the greatest coach that's ever lived that has built their program with the perfect model. Add in the absolute gluttony of talent they've amassed and it's not difficult to see why they reload. However, even they've shown a few warts the past couple of years.

Our best reasons are pretty tied to one thing, qb play. We've had exactly 1 qb in over a decade that would've been considered as even an all conference player. Add in a stale Les Miles and ita no wonder. This season is on record as the most decimated returning champion in history. A dropoff should've been expected. If we don't improve as the year goes on and aren't up to snuff next year then it's time to start questioning the current leadership.

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Overall, LSU has a 3 years and declare culture problem. I can't think of another school (not saying another isn't out there) that has 3rd yr players, not even have first 5 round draft grade

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Can you name these players under Coach Orgeron?


You do realize O re-recruited Stevens, Shelvin, and a few other kids back to school this year, right?


and the year before, Lawrence, Fulton, & i believe Fehoko

Bama reloads every year because Saban recuits like a machine. Worst rated class was ranked second. Saban also has solid coaches around him. Bama is the definition of a program. Dabo is doing exactly the same things.

If people would follow recruiting they would understand. Our 2018 class got depleted

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It's just not realistic to think they can withstand that amount of attrition with scholarship players.

You lose that many guys in the offseason, unplanned, its tough. You simply can't just replace them with someone else. Losing two draft classes worth of players is not something anyone has ever come close to dealing with man.

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so which games can we compete, with this terrible depleted roster? I suppose not Bama, Florida, or Auburn, so that's 3 more losses. A&M? Ole Miss? Arky?

Just how bad are we, with this depleted roster? What's an acceptable record this year?

Was a 7-8 win team before the offseason attrition.

Now I’m not sure. Playing a glob of young players & first year starters with a low number of total scholarship players is unpredictable