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re: Why can't LSU force ticket holders to use their tickets?
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:22 am to EarthwormJim
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:22 am to EarthwormJim
quote:Read KAboss's post 2nd page
Where?
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Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:22 am to CITWTT
quote:Tickets are not 'assets' of the season ticket holder. They are assets of LSU.
If you own a car but choose to not use it, should the state have the authority to seize your assets?
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:23 am to meauxjeaux2
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Read KAboss's post 2nd page
Oh, well then it must be true.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:23 am to TIGRLEE
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You people are so fricking stupid.
Quit posting.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:24 am to lsuhunt555
quote:hmmm,now that's something to chew on. Those seats are being used for entertainment tax write offs so no shows don't really effect these large corporations.
I would say over half of the no shows are corporate tickets.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:25 am to EarthwormJim
are you saying it isn't?
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:25 am to Hacker
quote:I don't think the OP expects a season ticket holder to use his tickets at 'every game.' It's those persons whose tickets are habitually unused.
I make pretty much every game and our seats are pretty much always filled with friends or people that work for us, etc. But I can understand how people can't make every game.
BTW, congrats on having 10 season tickets and using all of them most of the time.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:26 am to meauxjeaux2
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are you saying it isn't?
Yes, I'm saying schools aren't punishing season ticket holders.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:27 am to LSURussian
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I wouldn't mind seeing a policy if a ticket holder's tickets go unused for the entire season, or perhaps only one game is used during the season, the license is revoked unless the holder can offer a valid explanation, such as serious but temporary illness or a temporary work assignment out of the country.
Do you have any idea what it would cost to enforce such a policy? To say nothing of the complexities involved in writing the regulations for this type of program. And the gamesmanship it will encourage in those trying to avoid losing their tickets.
For example, if I'm diagnosed with something requiring months worth of treatment, do I have to provide the Athletics Departments with proof of my illness to avoid the the penalty? Or do I have to spend my time finding someone to fill my seats for the required amount of time? Do I have to prove I tried to find someone to take the seats during my treatment period? Is this the best way to spend my time while being treated for a serious illness?
What if my boss isn't requiring me to work, but I need the overtime pay to make ends meet for my family? Does that fit into your work exception? Do I have to provide financial statements showing I needed to get the overtime pay to cover my kids' tuition?
Is there going to be a panel of judges who decide whether my excuse for missing the necessary number of games is good enough to avoid the penalty? Can I appeal their decision? Can I bring an attorney to represent me?
Who is going to write all these regulations? Are the current season ticket holders going to elect a ticket congress to decide how many games I must attend, which excuses are valid, who to appoint to the arbitration panel?
My point is this: any system designed to enforce the type of policy being advocated in this thread is going to lead to ludicrous results. It's going to be expensive to implement, unfair in certain situations not contemplated by those who promulgate it, and lead to more problems that are going to bring more idiots to this board complaining.
I suppose the idea of making game attendance mandatory sounds nice the week after a poor showing at the stadium, but none of you have thought this trough. What you're advocating is way over the top.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:30 am to EarthwormJim
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Yes, I'm saying schools aren't punishing season ticket holders.
LINK
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What are priority points and how do I earn them? Priority Points help rank all season ticket holders for season ticket placement, upgrades and high-demand events (OU/Texas, away games, post-season events, etc). You may gain priority points through current donations (three points for every $100 received), past donations (all previous gifts are awarded one point for every $100), season ticket points (one point is given for each sport in which a season ticket is purchased, not 1 point for every season ticket purchased) and Sooner Loyalty points (four points for 100% attendance; three points for 85-99% attendance; two points for 73-84%; attendance credit and points are given for attendance at football, men's and women's basketball, baseball, gymnastics, soccer, softball, volleyball, and wrestling). Attendance points are updated for each year in April. An email will be sent with instructions regarding how to log in online to view your point total at that time. You may also inquire by phone beginning mid-April if that email is not received.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:33 am to UncleEarl
I see what you're saying. I think if it were put in writing before purchase the buyer would have to be in agreeance of the terms and abide by them no matter what situation may incur.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:34 am to meauxjeaux2
I'm a season ticket holder with 4 tickets in section 103, about as good as you can get outside of suite tickets. My dad has had them in his name for over 30 years, and they have been in mine for the last 5 or so. I live about 30 miles outside of BR, and I have 2 young children. I have been to the 2 SEC games so far this year, and I gave away tickets to UAB and couldn't find anyone to go to Kent State.
I go to as many games as possible, but now that I have a family I am not able to go to all the games. I make sacrifices so I won't have to miss the bigger SEC home games, but I am not sacrificing family time to waste an entire day watching us play Furman, Kent State, North Texas, etc. That is my choice and being that I own the tickets, it is my right not to go.
As another poster mentioned, I pay over $5K a year for these seats, and seeing all the brokedicks on the exchange trying to get a lower bowl ticket to the Florida game for 30 bucks, I don't think there are as many people who would sign up to take my season long commitment as you think. Sure they would love to buy 2-3 games a year, but they won't pony up the $5K year after year like I have.
So if you want to punish people like me, then go ahead, but I'm glad LSU is smarter than you and realizes that season tickets are the backbone of sustainability for the program.
I go to as many games as possible, but now that I have a family I am not able to go to all the games. I make sacrifices so I won't have to miss the bigger SEC home games, but I am not sacrificing family time to waste an entire day watching us play Furman, Kent State, North Texas, etc. That is my choice and being that I own the tickets, it is my right not to go.
As another poster mentioned, I pay over $5K a year for these seats, and seeing all the brokedicks on the exchange trying to get a lower bowl ticket to the Florida game for 30 bucks, I don't think there are as many people who would sign up to take my season long commitment as you think. Sure they would love to buy 2-3 games a year, but they won't pony up the $5K year after year like I have.
So if you want to punish people like me, then go ahead, but I'm glad LSU is smarter than you and realizes that season tickets are the backbone of sustainability for the program.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:37 am to meauxjeaux2
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You may gain priority points through current donations (three points for every $100 received)
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Sooner Loyalty points (four points for 100% attendance
So I can add $133 to my donation for the year and reap the same benefits as someone going to every home game? Sign me up.
This post was edited on 10/14/13 at 11:38 am
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:37 am to meauxjeaux2
That doesn't take away season tickets. It's basically the equivalent of a $100 donation in order to get bowl game tickets. That's not a punishment, it's an incentive.
This post was edited on 10/14/13 at 11:40 am
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:38 am to UncleEarl
quote:Yes, not very much.
Do you have any idea what it would cost to enforce such a policy?
A couple of student workers could do the grunt work every off season.
quote:What complexity? Telling season tickets holders use them or lose them is very easy and not complex at all.
To say nothing of the complexities involved in writing the regulations for this type of program.
quote:A letter or email would suffice.
if I'm diagnosed with something requiring months worth of treatment, do I have to provide the Athletics Departments with proof of my illness to avoid the the penalty?
quote:What if the sun burns out? How difficult is it to give your tickets to someone who will use them at least ONCE each season?
but I need the overtime pay to make ends meet for my family? Does that fit into your work exception?
You're really, really over thinking this. You're either retired with nothing else to do, or you're a lawyer.....or both.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:41 am to EarthwormJim
we were talking about KAboss's post.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:43 am to slinger1317
quote:and as I said,i am as well but i see there's a problem with attendance.
I'm a season ticket holder
LSU could put some sort of online application where if you have season tickets and don't want to attend the Furman games,go online,submit that you aren't going and they void your ticket and put it up for sale at the ticket office.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:46 am to Harry Caray
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Your idea is a great one
No, actually its one of the worst things I have ever read. People who buy a ticket can do what they want with it. Accept the fact as many have said here, technology has become so good that its arguably a better experience on TV.
That being said, also accept the fact our fans are not among the best in the nation... I'm always amazed by White Outs at Penn State... can't ever work here.
Those two also being said, I would rather shitty fans and a title contending team than the other way around.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:47 am to UncleEarl
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Do you have any idea what it would cost to enforce such a policy? To say nothing of the complexities involved in writing the regulations for this type of program
They are all electronically scanned. Tickets go unused for >(pick it)% of the games, you aren't offered a chance to renew the following season, those tickets go back to the pool
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And the gamesmanship it will encourage in those trying to avoid losing their tickets
What? It forces some of those good seats to be used. Heaven help us that someone would have to give those primo seats to someone that will sit in them.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:47 am to Spirit of Dunson
quote:So why can't they set up some kind of pool where people who know they can't make the game(s) can donate their tickets for charity or resale?
Yes. You are a season ticket holder. Then one fall, your wife has twins and you miss a few games. Lose your tickets.
Not that the excuse should matter. In my opinion, you buy the tickets, then you can do what you want with them. That is what ownership implies.
We supposedly have a huge waiting list for season tickets, seems like we could generate as much interest in these tickets and create a waiting list of folks willing to go to a game on a weeks notice or so.
Corporations could make it a charitable donation if they have excess tickets one week as long as it was set up as some sort of charity for underprivileged youths or something.
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