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Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:08 am to lake chuck fan
We kept running inside and passing outside, when we should have been doing just the opposite--running outside and passing over the middle behind the LBs.
It was frustrating, but I think it basically boiled down to Miles being conservative while beating the crap out of a lesser opponent on the road.
It was frustrating, but I think it basically boiled down to Miles being conservative while beating the crap out of a lesser opponent on the road.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:10 am to lake chuck fan
I dont care where we run the ball.
However it does seem futile to try to run the ball betweeen the tackles when the defense has 8-9 guys up there daring you to do it.
However it does seem futile to try to run the ball betweeen the tackles when the defense has 8-9 guys up there daring you to do it.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:15 am to JawjaTigah
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"Mr. Defense" Saban will be waiting to stuff that run every time.
so has every one of our opponents so far. they have stuffed a lot of them too. the problem, from their defense's prospective, is when we fake that play and run a perimeter play, it is often wide open. ditto with some pass plays. they are getting "lulled" into cheating to the middle. also, as has been stated, we have beat up the teams we have played so far due to their lack of DL depth. however, bama has that depth also.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:16 am to lake chuck fan
We could've run outside to the left all day. UT's outside containment was horrible.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:16 am to TIGRLEE
We had a big gain every single time we ran outside against Tennessee btw. The problem is we only did it about 3 times.
We also never ran crossing routes behind the LBs (EVERYTHING in the passing game was to the outside), so if you're Tennessee, why stop running straight up into the line to stop the rush?
We also never ran crossing routes behind the LBs (EVERYTHING in the passing game was to the outside), so if you're Tennessee, why stop running straight up into the line to stop the rush?
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:17 am to lake chuck fan
Uh, because it works?
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:17 am to Doc Fenton
quote:I think you'll see more Shep/Ford running to the outside against Bama
We had a big gain every single time we ran outside against Tennessee btw. The problem is we only did it about 3 times.
and also play action using the toss to Ware as the fake
This post was edited on 10/17/11 at 8:18 am
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:18 am to LSU GrandDad
Well, we will have to change it up against Bama. They're so stout in the middle with their LBs, it's gonna be pretty damn hard to keep pounding it against them.
I'm sure we'll come up with something though
I'm sure we'll come up with something though
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:19 am to LSU GrandDad
This is the reason why Les is giving JJ so much of game time. He knows JJ will be the X-factor in that matchup. If Bama stops the run and Lee is having a bad day put JJ in and make it a 11-on-11 game.
And I really really hope PJ will be fit for that game. Their NT on TBob is a nightmarish matchup.
And I really really hope PJ will be fit for that game. Their NT on TBob is a nightmarish matchup.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:29 am to DBG
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Well, we will have to change it up against Bama. They're so stout in the middle with their LBs, it's gonna be pretty damn hard to keep pounding it against them.
I'm not so sure about that. I'll prob put this in its own thread, but we've been pretty good pounding it at them the past few yrs. in fact, our Bama game plans have looked kinda similar to what we've been doing this yr on an every game basis.
not saying there won't be any outside running, QB runs, other wrinkles (more 1st down passing is my bet), etc., but the pound the rock philosophy has actually done better against some stout Bama defenses than I think ppl realize.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:35 am to JawjaTigah
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It seems like it would be a good idea to have at least one or two other running options besides the up the middle routine
do you think they don't?
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:35 am to ATLTiger
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good question but seems to be working so i'm ok with it
That Chit will not work against Alabama...
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:36 am to growler
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We are predictable
Yep, but that's probably why it's been so effective when we do break tendency by running outside or throwing off of play action.
As for the "but it won't work against Bama" line....well, no shite. Nothing we do against them, running outside, inside, nor passing is going to be as easy against them as it has been against other teams. The reason is because they're really f'in good, not because we didn't do it X number of times against Tennessee or Kentucky in October.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:38 am to Doc Fenton
quote:road.
We kept running inside and passing outside, when we should have been doing just the opposite--running outside and passing over the middle behind the LBs.
It was frustrating, but I think it basically boiled down to Miles being conservative while beating the crap out of a lesser opponent on the
Exactly what I am saying, but I see the method to his madness... we will do it while we can get away with it, save the rest for Bama, if we need it... I am reasonably sure we will need some options on Nov. 5th. Also, as I have said before, CLM keeps his cards close, not showing anymore than necceasary... saving it till we need it.. Thats the advantage of playing conservative
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:42 am to lake chuck fan
WEAR EM OUT..that's why by the 4th qrt. majority of teams can't stop the run..YOU CONTROL THE CLOCK, THEREFORE YOU CONTROL THE GAME..win.win.. 
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:46 am to lake chuck fan
We will take what the defense give us. So far it's been between the tackles a lot, but we've had success to the outside and also with bouncing runs outside that were intended to go up the middle.
Our running backs just need a little daylight and it doesn't matter where the hole is in my mind as long as it yields positive yardage.
We'll run for a bunch against Aubey with Fairley gone.
Our running backs just need a little daylight and it doesn't matter where the hole is in my mind as long as it yields positive yardage.
We'll run for a bunch against Aubey with Fairley gone.
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:47 am to ATLTiger
You know, now that I think about it
I remember chuck Scott hashing them pretty good in 08 and having success in 09 before getting hurt. But, this is their best set of LBs since Sabes has been there too
We'll see
I remember chuck Scott hashing them pretty good in 08 and having success in 09 before getting hurt. But, this is their best set of LBs since Sabes has been there too
We'll see
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:49 am to TheDoc
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Straight up the middle against 8,9,and 10 man fronts.
and beating the crap out of them. our gameplanning has been lights out this year. know your strength...identify their weakness...attack the weakness with your strength until it collapses. "all resistance is futile."
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:49 am to lake chuck fan
quote:Ford off tackle is money. It's the only ara that I disagree with our offensive playcalling We use Ware too much and we pound the middle too much.
We should try off tackle a bit more..
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