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re: Why are we retaining McMahon?

Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:12 pm to
What’s our NIL budget?
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:12 pm to
Lsu fans love a good firing
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15760 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:31 pm to
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This is where I'm at. I understand what others are saying but dude isn't getting a fair fight with most of the conference. Add Reed's injury and it's a bad situation. Give the resources in NIL and see the results. Won't be any questions this time next year


This fanbase also isn't smart enough to realize that you can't invest in staff and the roster at once. If it's invest in the roster and keep McMahon, or invest in a new staff and keep one of the bottom two/three rosters in conference, I'm going with McMahon every time because I have more faith in that.
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:35 pm to
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Lsu fans love a good firing


This would be a mercy kill
Posted by WhySoSerious
No.
Member since Jan 2014
884 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:43 pm to
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What’s our NIL budget?

No idea. I’m just going off links I’ve seen here. I don’t put any more effort into it. But if I’m wrong & reports are a lie, then can him. Today. Again, I’m not a fan. I’m also aware that money is the most important thing to the players we’d need to recruit to win.
For example. Anyone paying attention to Bryce Underwood’s recruitment knows he flipped because UM offered more money. Some rich woman got her husband to give $ to UM & he flipped. Everyone in this board knows or assumes every recruit is looking for the most money. Stewart is another example. So I hope we don’t assume it’s different in basketball. If NIL reports are true, you can not expect him to be able to compete. I PERSONALLY don’t think he’ll compete for anything of significance with more $, but it’s not my decision.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65704 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:51 pm to
Well there are two sets of numbers being passed around on the board. You have the Mascona BS which started this shite and says that Arkansas spends 12mil, Vandy and Bama spend 5mil and we spend 1.5. That’s false, according to sources like 247 and others Arkansas led the nation at just over 5mil with Kansas #2 at 4mil and the average P4 tourney school paying between 1.5 and 3mil per. The average for all schools is 750k. So if we’re paying 1.5 in NIL we’re right on par with most competitive P4 programs, for example Villanova who’s a more prestigious Bball school pays 2mil in NIL.

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This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 8:57 pm
Posted by robertgamb
Member since Jan 2015
847 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:00 pm to
After tonight's incredible showing they should have gone to the team plane Grabbed Mclosers shite thrown it off the plane,and told him go on get the frick out!
Posted by WhySoSerious
No.
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:36 pm to
Yea 1.5 isn’t enough for McMahon to compete. He doesn’t coach well enough to overcome any talent deficiencies. He’ll need around 3.5 to get to the tournament. Don’t see him getting to the elite 8 under any circumstances.
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Villanova who’s a more prestigious Bball school pays 2mil in NIL.

So they spend more & they’re 18-13 in a worse conference. I suspect that coach would have about the same record as McM in this situation. 1st place in their conference is St John’s led by Rick Pitino. If you wanna win games without participating in bidding wars for the best players, you need a great coach. McMahon is not that. If we want to win, spend the money or hire a better coach, who will still require a competitive budget due to the competition.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65704 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:39 pm to
3.5 would put him in or around the top 5 teams in the country. It won’t make him go from the basement to contending so you’re just throwing good money after bad. Doing this is not a sustainable strategy.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65704 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:42 pm to
It’s not a talent issue, you heard the announcer say it tonight. We had the 14th ranked class this season, 5th in the SEC. We had the 17th ranked class year before last and he’s winning 25% of his games. That isn’t a money problem.
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 11:44 pm
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8026 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:48 pm to
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We have talent. We are clearly missing Miller and Reed. We are competing, not getting blown out for the most part. It sucks but I'm just giving you a different opinion. Don't get your panties in a twist.


This aged like a fine wine! Not!
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 11:52 pm
Posted by Riolobo
On the lake
Member since Mar 2017
5112 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:56 am to
Solid post. Especially after last night. Getting humiliated on national tv is going to hurt what little recruiting we have going.
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
2833 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:01 am to
There is not one good reason to retain McMahon.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119283 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:09 am to
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I’m going with McMahon every time


Agreed. The man can coach. He’s only a player or two away.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 7:11 am
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
9636 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:13 am to
When the coach is running off his two most talented freshmen, there is no hope for the future.
Posted by Goalie
Used to be San Diego now West Texas
Member since Jan 2025
557 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:21 am to
Next yr will he his last if he doesnt improve
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:33 am to
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How about it? Fire him and hire me. I’ll run it to perfection.

Pretty doubtful that someone claiming anything McMahon is doing resembles Jay wright understands basketball enough to be a coach.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:35 am to
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I'm going with McMahon every time because I have more faith in that.

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CP3forMVP

You people are unbelievable
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15760 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:39 am to
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You people are unbelievable


You have more faith in another coach coming in and elevating one of the bottom two rosters in the entire conference to where this fanbase feels the program should be? If you say yes, I'm not the one that's unbelievable.

I'll put it simply, if they get NIL to where it needs to be, McMahon is a good enough coach to win. There's two examples in conference this year alone of coaches that this board would have ran off but are now winning because their schools invested, and both of those coaches were considered the worst coaches in the league prior to this season.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 7:42 am
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
168245 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:47 am to
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You have more faith in another coach coming in and elevating one of the bottom two rosters in the entire conference to where this fanbase feels the program should be? If you say yes, I'm not the one that's unbelievable


There is proof this can be done looking around the conference and the country.

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put it simply, if they get NIL to where it needs to be, McMahon is a good enough coach to win


Proof?
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