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re: Why are some fans wasting Simmons' entire tenure complaining about him?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:09 am to slackster
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:09 am to slackster
You just made my point!!!!!! Dumbass
Why on earth would ben have the usage rate of CP3?????!
He is our PF. Except he is not. He's also our PG and its ridiculous and contributing to us losing.
Ben plays PF all year and we are not 16-12.
Go ask AD and melo fool.
Edit: so simmons has the usage rate of an nba allstar mvp pg chris paul. Wow.
What was CP3's usage rate a wake forest idiot. Why are you giving me apples to oranges i.e. College and pro
Why on earth would ben have the usage rate of CP3?????!
He is our PF. Except he is not. He's also our PG and its ridiculous and contributing to us losing.
Ben plays PF all year and we are not 16-12.
Go ask AD and melo fool.
Edit: so simmons has the usage rate of an nba allstar mvp pg chris paul. Wow.
What was CP3's usage rate a wake forest idiot. Why are you giving me apples to oranges i.e. College and pro
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 11:11 am
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:10 am to Salmon
This is his scouting report coming into LSU. I think most would agree both the strengths and weakness have been more or less correct, right? I don't understand the anger when he's performed up to the level most thought he would perform at (at least according to his scouting report) going into this season LSU
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Strengths: Smooth player who makes things look effortless no matter how difficult... Shows unbelievable ability when it comes to passing the ball. Simply has that uncanny court vision and knack for seeing plays develop before they occur... Possesses very good motion on his long range jumper as he does an excellent job of keeping his body square and his shooting with his elbow tucked in ... Owns a quick first step and solid ball handling ability to get past most defenders ... When penetrating to the basket, he shows tremendous body control as he can adjust his shot according to the defense ... Shows remarkable shot selection as he doesn't force too many shots ... Solid rebounder who understands how to position himself well under the boards to gain easy rebounding opportunities ... Shows great poise and leadership on the court... Has a very good body, although not NBA ready. Definitely can put on 10-15 more pounds quite comfortably ... Excellent finisher when running the break where he can take opponents off the dribble and rise up for the quick dunk ... Defensively he shows solid anticipation skills when playing the passing lanes ... Plays the baseline very well where he is often the recipient of a quick pass for the alley-oop dunk ...
Weakness: At this point in his career his defense isn't the best but he does have the physical tools to be an outstanding defender... Has a bad habit of overplaying his man for the quick steal which can leave his player open for the easy shot... Struggles on the free throw line, however getting a free throw routine and experience would be of great benefit to him, plus establishing a sharper mental focus ... His ball handling ability is very good at the high school level, however he still needs work on maintaining better ball protection and has a tendency to get careless ... Perimeter shooting from mid-range isn't as developed as his long-range shooting ... Doesn't exploit his body size enough as his post-up game offensively remains unutilized ... Sometimes he can be a little too flashy at times as he gets caught up in the moment... His shooting off the dribble leaves a little to be desired from 18 feet out... Not a blindingly quick player so lateral quickness on defense should be worked on... Some have questioned if he has bought into all the hype about himself but to his credit it takes a certain level of brashness to handle it all ...
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:10 am to P bean
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Why on earth would ben have the usage rate of CP3?????!
because he is, by far, our best player
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He is our PF. Except he is not. He's also our PG and its ridiculous and contributing to us losing.
who should be point? Quarterman?
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Ben plays PF all year and we are not 16-12.
probably worse
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:10 am to The Seaward
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What does this even mean?
King of the 4th inning home run, or the home run when your team is ahead 3 runs. Great stats, but doesn't always translate into wins.
Ask Yankee fans who they want at the plate in the 8th inning of a tie game, A-Rod or Jeter.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:12 am to Scoob
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So then the Simmons flunkies start chiming in with excuses and defenses: he is just a freshman. He has time to learn to shoot. Or the best one, the one that has prompted the most vitriol: you just don't understand basketball if you don't see he's the best. I understand basketball plenty, and I understand this kid is not what he was built up to be. The emperor has no clothes.
He is going to be the #1 overall pick and yet you're confident he is nothing special. NBA front offices everywhere could use a guy like you.
This will piss you off, but if you don't see what Simmons can do, and if you don't see why GMs can't wait to take him #1, then you truly don't understand basketball.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:14 am to slackster
They compared him to Lebron, danny manning all them guys have jump shots, simple stating Ben has nothing close to a jump shot at this point in his career.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:15 am to speckhead
I am almost certain when lebron was 18 his jump shot was his weak spot on offense
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:16 am to Salmon
Ask kentucky
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:17 am to Choupique19
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ng of the 4th inning home run, or the home run when your team is ahead 3 runs. Great stats, but doesn't always translate into wins. Ask Yankee fans who they want at the plate in the 8th inning of a tie game, A-Rod or Jeter
Ahh, the old ARod isn't clutch narrative. So much for the 2009 postseason when he hit .365/.500/.808 and led the Yankees to the WS.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:18 am to Salmon
Simmons should not have a college game usage rate equal to the amount of time CP3 has it in a pro game which is longer.
This year isnt on teammates of simmons. Ben has the ball all game. He wont play as a PF and we need one badly. He is playing outside leaving only 1 guy inside.
Ask kentucky. When ben played bully ball he fouled out their whole team.
This year isnt on teammates of simmons. Ben has the ball all game. He wont play as a PF and we need one badly. He is playing outside leaving only 1 guy inside.
Ask kentucky. When ben played bully ball he fouled out their whole team.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:18 am to P bean
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This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 11:19 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:19 am to Salmon
Blind. tq aint the first pick of the draft simmons is. And he isnt playing college ball to win, he's playing to showcase himself and its working.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 11:20 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:20 am to P bean
Simmons has been getting to the line and playing inside fine
what are you talking about?
what are you talking about?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:20 am to P bean
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You just made my point!!!!!! Dumbass
You said, and I quote:
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CP3 wishes he had simmons usage rate.
I just showed you he has a higher usage rate than Simmons.
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What was CP3's usage rate a wake forest idiot
They don't have those stats past 2009. Sorry.
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Why are you giving me apples to oranges i.e. College and pro
Usage rate is a percentage. It doesn't matter if it is college or the NBA. If anything, you'd expect your usage in college would be higher than in the NBA.
Also, when a forward is the best player on your team, you tend to see a high usage rate. Doug McDermott had a usage rate of 36.16% his senior year, and a higher usage rate than Ben Simmons every year he was in school.
Do you want to go on, or would you like to concede?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:21 am to Alt26
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This is his scouting report coming into LSU. I think most would agree both the strengths and weakness have been more or less correct, right? I don't understand the anger when he's performed up to the level most thought he would perform at (at least according to his scouting report) going into this season LSU
Because our fans are idiots.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:24 am to Pnels08
What was LeBron's free throw game like at age 18-19?
I see he was a .754% at 19 in the NBA
Simmons is .668%
That's the thing that frustrates me..
Although Simmons has better stats elsewhere, but it's not really fair to compare those 2 as one was playing in the NBA vs NBA defenses.
I see he was a .754% at 19 in the NBA
Simmons is .668%
That's the thing that frustrates me..
Although Simmons has better stats elsewhere, but it's not really fair to compare those 2 as one was playing in the NBA vs NBA defenses.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:30 am to Pnels08
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I am almost certain when lebron was 18 his jump shot was his weak spot on offense
It was. Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant though.
LeBron shot 43.8% on 2pt shots as a rookie in the NBA. He shot 34.2% from 3ft to < 3pt, and 29.0% on 3pt shots.
No one is going to argue against the competition level, but LeBron's jumper was a major issue. Also, it took him until his 7th season in the league to shoot over 50% on FGs total.
For shits and giggles, LeBron's usage rate has NEVER been as low as BS is right now, so the argument can be made that BS doesn't keep the ball enough.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 11:31 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:31 am to Yunel Escobar
People will have a new appreciation for Simmons when we have a losing record next year in conference and quite possibly overall . Granted , he won't be the only loss, but the point still stands.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:33 am to Alt26
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This is his scouting report coming into LSU
That report is flawless, yet people on here want to blame BS as if it is his fault they were clueless to his weaknesses.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:35 am to Salmon
For those bashing Quarterman, I don't think anybody truly entertains him having much chance to be drafted, let alone be the #1 pick in the draft. Not to say Quarterman's play is acceptable, but we're talking a different measuring stick.
For those who keep posting Simmon's stat line, let me ask you: what constitutes an assist? I'll answer- the player you pass to shoots, and makes it.
Ok, LSU runs the worst and most disjointed offense we've seen in a long time. Simmons brings the ball down, passes to someone, who jacks up a 3. If it goes in, he gets an assist. If it doesn't, you get a long rebound, and Simmons being 6'10 and athletic, and definitely does have a feel for the ball off the rim, has a good shot at the rebound too.
Next offensive option, pass the ball into Simmons on the block, he again passes out to random 3 pt shooter. Again, another assist, or another rebound chance. These rebounds also give him basically his best look at the basket outside of a fast break.
Not saying there is any conspiracy here, just pointing the obvious out. Curious what Simmons' numbers would be, if LSU ran an efficient offense. Maybe 15, 8, 3?
For those who keep posting Simmon's stat line, let me ask you: what constitutes an assist? I'll answer- the player you pass to shoots, and makes it.
Ok, LSU runs the worst and most disjointed offense we've seen in a long time. Simmons brings the ball down, passes to someone, who jacks up a 3. If it goes in, he gets an assist. If it doesn't, you get a long rebound, and Simmons being 6'10 and athletic, and definitely does have a feel for the ball off the rim, has a good shot at the rebound too.
Next offensive option, pass the ball into Simmons on the block, he again passes out to random 3 pt shooter. Again, another assist, or another rebound chance. These rebounds also give him basically his best look at the basket outside of a fast break.
Not saying there is any conspiracy here, just pointing the obvious out. Curious what Simmons' numbers would be, if LSU ran an efficient offense. Maybe 15, 8, 3?
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