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re: Whose offense will we see this year?
Posted on 3/4/12 at 4:06 pm to SouthernRabbit
Posted on 3/4/12 at 4:06 pm to SouthernRabbit
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SouthernRabbit
I don't care if you spent your entire life in Louisiana and feel that gives you license to discuss the merits of our program against the backdrop that is Alabama football, nobody cares. You speak purely in generalities about out physicality and you have absolutely nothing to support that argument other than living in LA for 28 years. Go away.
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Posted on 3/4/12 at 4:07 pm to SouthernRabbit
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SouthernRabbit
Unlike most I read your thesis and I would like to poke a few holes in it.
Here goes:
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They were both too young to remember when Bear Bryant won a national championship in 1961 with a 205 pound quarterback who was just about the biggest player on that football team.
That's actually not true. Bryant lied like cheap rug regarding the sizes of his players. Linemen that were listed as 185 would show up at pro camps a fer months later at something line 250. That's a lot of cornbread, ya'll.
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With Bryant it was about recruiting great athletes, but not to the point that this was his sole emphasis. Yes, he wanted to wear down the opposition with superior physicality, so as to win the fourth quarter and therefore win the game. But that very physicality might come from superior effort by inferior talent.
Again another Bama legend. Bryant recruited everybody that he thought could play football. He NEVER recruited anybody that he thought couldn't play in the SEC. There were no limits on schollys back then and he would load up on players just to deny them to other schools. Alabama had the money to support the schollys so he would stack his team that way. He could and did wear anybody down with his depth of talent.
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It was the mental aspect of Bryant's coaching that I think has probably been largely overlooked by the "esperts." They have tended to look at him as a big, dumb ex-lineman, who couldn't have been that smart, especially when you consider his folksy, Southern drawl. I think he may have even encouraged this underestimation of his intelligence.
Finally some truth. He was smart. He knew football and he knew people. He also knew the NCAA rulebook back and front and knew which loopholes to exploit.
The rest is generally close to accurate.
This post was edited on 3/4/12 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 3/4/12 at 4:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
That was more than just a game! That game could change the future of LSU football. It was a chance for LSU to go down in history as one of if not the greatest team in college history. Did anybody watch that game? Were you happy with the coaching, execution or play calling? If you were than you will be happy if we go back to 500 football. Most true fans saw the train wreck coming. That loss will be stuck in the back of fans minds forever. Sorry! I aint forgettin. That offense needs to be tweeked.
Posted on 3/4/12 at 4:11 pm to rickyh
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Did anybody watch that game?
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Were you happy with the coaching, execution or play calling?
It's March 4th dude.
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That loss will be stuck in the back of fans minds forever. Sorry! I aint forgettin.
But I wish you would stop posting.
Posted on 3/4/12 at 4:43 pm to rickyh
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Most true fans
You mean, the ones suffering from an entitlement complex like you.
"Oh God, we got stuffed in a BCSCG and only finished 13-1, 9-0 and #2 in the nation!! The pain of it all! How can we ever live down the shame of only being 1-1 in BCSCGs in the last 5 years!"
Earth to rickyh...LSU is one of the top 3 BCS programs in all of college football.
You might want to wake up and enjoy our elite success while it's still going on.
Posted on 3/4/12 at 4:49 pm to Lonnie4LSU
we can enjoy our elite status but what's wrong with wanting it all. I don't want LSU to be second fiddle to Alabama or even slide back even a little further than that. We need to utilize all the talent we have on offense, including the passing game. Why put a limit on what we do and be satisfied with it?
Posted on 3/4/12 at 4:52 pm to boxcar willie
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We need to utilize all the talent we have on offense, including the passing game
we have. unfortunately the talent in the passing game has been less than stellar the last few years.
Posted on 3/4/12 at 4:53 pm to Choctaw
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we have. unfortunately the talent in the passing game has been less than stellar the last few years.
exactly
Posted on 3/4/12 at 5:44 pm to SouthernRabbit
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Les commands a certain loyalty that few coaches can. I might even go so far as to say that this makes Les Miles a great coach.
Love your observations. LM is all about TEAM.
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Bryant believed that you can have a "tank" of a football team, but you have to have someone who can competently, effectively drive the "tank."
I really think LM didn't play Mett last year to have a better team this year. We finally have a 5* caliber QB and we're not throwing him in before he's ready.
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It comes down to'gut-check' time (another Bryant-ism), but it also comes down to what happens mentally on the sideline between the head coach and his quarterback. The question, it seems to me, remains, can LSU be an elite program with what seems to me to be an continued primary emphasis upon physicality and numbers.
WE SHALL SEE.
As for Alabama football I think their success has always been about $$$$$. Bryant was the highest paid coach of his time and you bought your way back from sanctions with Saban. Can Alabama continue to buy success without getting pentalized or is this a cycle?
This post was edited on 3/4/12 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 3/4/12 at 5:53 pm to Choctaw
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We need to utilize all the talent we have on offense, including the passing game
we have. unfortunately the talent in the passing game has been less than stellar the last few years.
Well I hope that's the case. I think we could have done a lot more with what we had but if Miles thinks he did what he could with what he had, then things should be different this season. We will see hopefully right from the start next season.
Posted on 3/4/12 at 6:02 pm to boxcar willie
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Well I hope that's the case. I think we could have done a lot more with what we had but if Miles thinks he did what he could with what he had, then things should be different this season. We will see hopefully right from the start next season.
Just look at the offense when we had JR and Flynn. '07 was the most prolific offense in LSU history. We'll always be a run first offense...its been that way for as long as i've been alive. So if anyone is expecting a Houston type offense they're gonna be very disappointed.
Posted on 3/4/12 at 6:06 pm to boxcar willie
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what's wrong with wanting it all
Nothing...it's human nature to want it all.
What's wrong in being able to see what you have and appreciate the elite status of the LSU football program and the hard work/effort needed to be put forth to maintain that status?
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I don't want LSU to be second fiddle to Alabama
LSU football is not "second fiddle" to ANYONE. Bama has a great program and they not going away...LSU has a great program and we not going away.
We will see what happens when they come to BR, but LSU football has played the best the college game has to offer and we have beated them all, but PSU, so I don't see any 2nd fiddle" playing,
This post was edited on 3/4/12 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 3/4/12 at 6:29 pm to Lonnie4LSU
So you are saying that if a LSU fan wants the offense to come up to speed with the defense and special teams than he is not a fan. That is stupid. We have suffered through watching some of the ugliest offense played by a championship team ever. Yes we wore out inferior opponents and gradually wore them down and won by wide margins. The special teams and defense had more to do with it than the offense in many games. What is wrong with wanting to see a complete team. Dominant on offense and defense. Running and passing? 0 points against Alabama. How many first downs against Georgia? Teams are catching on. This system is doomed if the coaching staff on offense are afraid or unable to utilize all the weapons on offense. Les and company are going to lose out on some more top recruits if they maintain this run at all cost offense. We not only lost the game. The turmoil in the locker room after the game affected our recruiting. Elite talent chose not to come because of this inept offense and philosophy. This is the rant. People who disagree with what I just said, didn't follow recruiting.
This post was edited on 3/4/12 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:14 pm to rickyh
It's going to be more balanced...but not 50/50.
If we can run it the way we ran it this past year, the offense should be significantly improved.
If we can run it the way we ran it this past year, the offense should be significantly improved.
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:30 pm to rickyh
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This system is doomed...
Right...the system that since 05 has the most wins among all BCS schools, the most SEC wins, and national rankings of #1, #2, #3, #5, #8, and #17 is "doomed".
Do you stay up at night thinking up this BS or does it just come naturally to you?
Everyone wants a more productive offense, but gosh...lighten up.
Why don't we wait and see what the offense with Mett looks like before we start freaking out with the sky is/might be falling crap.
It didn't fall in 2010, 2011, and it's not going to fall in 2012 either.
We have a great staff...they will make it work out for the season
Relax and enjoy yet another year of elite LSU football.
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:31 pm to Choctaw
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. So if anyone is expecting a Houston type offense they're gonna be very disappointed.
I doubt there is even one person anywhere who follows LSU football who would be expecting a Houston type offense
Posted on 3/4/12 at 8:56 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Give me the offensive rankings. The passing rankings. The scoring is skewed by the points by the defense.
I doubt there is even one person anywhere who follows LSU football who would be expecting a Houston type offense
Exactly! But a little more balance will go a long way. I don't like horrible play. Or play calling. That last game was horrendous but the games played immediately before, were precursors of what was going to happen. What cause so many players to get upset?
I doubt there is even one person anywhere who follows LSU football who would be expecting a Houston type offense
Exactly! But a little more balance will go a long way. I don't like horrible play. Or play calling. That last game was horrendous but the games played immediately before, were precursors of what was going to happen. What cause so many players to get upset?
This post was edited on 3/4/12 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 3/6/12 at 8:33 am to Lonnie4LSU
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 8:36 am to Lonnie4LSU
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HC with national rankings of #1, #2, #3, #5, #8, and #17 since 05 do what the hell he thinks is best?
Those ranking are fine and dandy, but that is still the same Mo focker who quit and laid a big fat rotten egg in New Orleans, emabarrased me and the Tiger nation, lost a couple recruits, etc... He needs to talk the headset off and eat grass, then we will be fine. he has coaches and his Barney Fife to watch the clock for him (and the policeman)
Posted on 3/6/12 at 8:53 am to Dubaitiger
Some of u want a run first offense. How did it work out in the NC game? If u don't have a balance attack u are not going to win the NC ever! Bama sure knows that.
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