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re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:49 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:49 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I’m sure you and RB will disagree bc I’m saying it but had CLM given Mett more snaps in 2011 he would’ve developed quicker in 2012. We blew tons of teams out and our coaches wasted opportunities to develop Mett that year. He really didn’t start putting it all together until the 2012 Bama game.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 8:51 pm
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Not realistically so Rog.
Les Miles QBs, except for Mett in 2013, are exceptions
I'll give you Harris, but Russell, Flynn, RP, Lee, Etling, and even JJ got better, maybe not all worldbeaters in your opinion, but better than the frosh version in each case.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:55 pm to Mayhawman
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and even JJ got better
Lee got better to a degree, JJs best year was 2009. Even in 2011 he was terrible his last two games. I think both Lee and JJ had confidence issues tha hindered development.
Les really struggled after Jimbo left finding someone to work with QBs
Despite that, he had a helluva career.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:59 pm to Mayhawman
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but better than the frosh version in each case.
Every QB at every level gets better with experience. Crediting coaches for QBs improving since their freshman year is like crediting parents for their 5 year old being taller than when they were 4.Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What a retard
Expected total offensive numbers to be similar.
So 1st year starting qb,lost best wr, returned 475 recieving yards and 2td OBjr
And you expected to match nu.bers from one of the most productive offenses in lsu history?
So experience isnt important?
Like I always say.... you know so little about the actual playing of football that you'll end up shitting on your own stances.
You been running your dick sucker all off season about how important experience is yet you wanted a 1st year starting qb to throw for 3000, and 1 475 yard and 2 td wr to run into 2 1000 yard wrs.
Wow.
Landry had 4 catches in his career and you expected 1000 yards?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:09 pm to lsufball19
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Once the light clicked on for Mett in the Alabama game in 2012, I wasn't shocked by 2013 at all. You could already see Odell, Jarvis, and Jeremy were awesome.
Many people could see the potential for that roster going into 2013. That's not what Roger said though.
No one saw that 2013 offense happening in 2012, which is what he claimed.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I don't really follow these threads, became it's an argument no one can ever win, but I did notice you're posting about 16,000 times a year. That's 16,000 times a year.
I don't know you, but it seems to be an unhealthy obsession to post that much. It just can't be a good thing.
I don't know you, but it seems to be an unhealthy obsession to post that much. It just can't be a good thing.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:10 pm to Topwater Trout
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So Justin having 1 more TC than OBJ and less catches means the 2018 team had more talent than the 2012 team? OBJ and Landry had almost 100 catches
I'm pointing out that you're using what Landry and Objr became in 2013 as proof they shouldve been that in 2012.
By that same standard JJ should be all world and all pro next year right?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:10 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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you wanted a 1st year starting qb to throw for 3000
Burrow came very close to accomplishing this...
Love the Rant, down voting facts. 2894 yards in first year with 3 months on campus prior to the start of the season.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:12 pm to lsufball19
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I wasn't shocked by 2013 at all.
You werent shocked by lsu having 3000 yard passer,2 1000 yard wrs ,and 1000 yard rb that was getting the single season ypc record in the sec?
Come on. I agree we expected them to be good but come on.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Nope, not with the talent on that squad.
You're using the talent they became in 2013 retard.
But hey you expected a wr with 4 catches in his career to have a 1000 yard year.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:16 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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OBjr had 2 receiving tds Landry didnt have 600 yards. Stop acting like what they were so what they have always been. If you say you did you're a liar. No one in 2012 saw 2013 coming.
Landry had 56 receptions in 2012, OBJ had 43. What surprised you?Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:17 pm to The First Cut
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Burrow came very close to accomplishing this..
And no really expected it.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:18 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You're using the talent they became in 2013 retard.
No dumbass. Everyone (but you) saw what was there. The offense got fired xponentially better from Alabama 2012. The potential was off the charts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:18 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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And no really expected it.
And the offense has been shite on since. What do you think the offense will do in 2019?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:18 pm to The First Cut
I didn't credit anyone, just refuted Mett was the only Miles QB that got better.
There are quite a few cases of frosh not making it through the soph slump though.
If you care to argue that, maybe someone else will take it up, as I really don't have the time or the want to link them. Have a great day.
There are quite a few cases of frosh not making it through the soph slump though.
If you care to argue that, maybe someone else will take it up, as I really don't have the time or the want to link them. Have a great day.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:19 pm to Mayhawman
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I didn't credit anyone, just refuted Mett was the only Miles QB that got better.
Every QB gets better with experience, how much better is attributable to coaching.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:20 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You werent shocked by lsu having 3000 yard passer,2 1000 yard wrs ,and 1000 yard rb that was getting the single season ypc record in the sec?
Come on. I agree we expected them to be good but come on.
I mean honestly no. Maybe the ypc record for Hill but nothing the rest of those guys did was shocking, not to me at least. Mett figuring it out made all that possible as he always had the arm talent to let Jarvis and Odell do their things. Hill showed a 1400 yard season wasn't shocking by how well he did once he started getting lions share f the carries in 2012. 3000 passing yards is a lot for us, but that's not really a shocking number to see for a good college QB. What I didn't expect was to lose 3 games with that team. The Ole Miss game that year still upsets me.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:22 pm to The First Cut
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Landry had 56 receptions in 2012, OBJ had 43. What surprised you?
That both would double their yards.
Landry would double his td catches
Objr would quadruple his career high td catches.
And we'd also have a rb setting the sec single season ypc stat.
If any of you saw that coming youd probably be on a staff somewhere.
For gods sake Rodger says he saw Juice catch 4 passes in 2011 and expected him to come close to his 2013 production.
Look you cant sit here and tout how important experience is and the. Expect 1st year players to have the same production when they are going into their draft eligible years. Either experience matters or it doesnt. Why would you expect sophomores to have the same production as juniors if you're entire premise of 2019 being better than 2018 is experience and 2 TVs that have never taken a snap in cfb?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:23 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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For gods sake Rodger says he saw Juice catch 4 passes in 2011 and expected him to come close to his 2013 production.
You can't read, zippy.
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