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re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?

Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:00 pm to
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Coach O is not yet a upgrade over Les.



I dont think anyone is saying he is an upgrade. He hasnt won anything yet. But in terms of building the program up and get us back to where we should be recruiting wise, hes done a decent job to this point.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:02 pm to
We have no idea what he would have done here. This seems a little unfair.

Maybe but it does show the level of despair we had reached in trying to find competent QBs.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:02 pm to
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Maybe but it does show the level of despair we had reached in trying to find competent QBs.



He was never supposed to play in '08. We had to kick RP off the team in case you had forgotten.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:03 pm to
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I dont think anyone is saying he is an upgrade.
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Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?


Are you just not paying attention these last couple days or what?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:04 pm to
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that I even have to explain this to you guys is odd


No one needs it explained. The problem is 2012 was the top ranked 3 loss team, lost by a combined 13 points,two teams that finished top 10 and they were ranked 12th.

Stop acting like 2018 was a far better season because other teams also lost 3 games allowing the top ranked 3 loss team to get 6th.


Also, I had to explain to you that there was a formation called the offset I formation.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:05 pm to
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If I say there's a good chance of rain based on the fact that the radar shows rain coming toward the area, am I clairvoyant?



Retard on....
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:06 pm to
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Are you just not paying attention these last couple days or what?


Yea my bad.....a little busy here at work.

Any idiot claiming O is an upgrade at this point...is simply trolling.
I support O for now, but I'm not going that far as to say hes an upgrade.

#hardware
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:07 pm to
I know right

This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:08 pm to
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at the time they played they were...you saying bama didn't get credit for beating a top 5 team? For once answer a question. I never shy away from questions.


We've already been through this. Calling 2017 FSU a top 5 team is a joke.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:09 pm to
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couldn’t imagine hating a coach so much that you drag out a thread 44 pages.


No one hates O.
Facts about O's tenure isnt hating him.
The mountain top of Ed Orgeron's head coaching career is having a season we deemed as underachieving when miles was the coach. That's a fact.

No one on this site was happy when miles would lose 3 games and struggle on offense but yet here you are saying people hate O because we arent gargling his nuts when he just lost 3 games and struggled on offense.

It's a shame that has to be explained to you O fanatics. O was hired to be better than Miles. Not have the same results san subjective polling.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:11 pm to
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Well duh...yea.....I mean he picked up JB who was already seasoned


I dont consider JB as seasoned when he got here. He had thrown 28 passes in big 12 play.
I do agree he is very talented though.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:19 pm to
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I've given it twice.


Wrong. Your opinion is that LSU is better off not running the table in the SEC and beating texas than running the table in the SEC and losing to Texas.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:20 pm to
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I mean do you even Andrew Hatch?????
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We have no idea what he would have done here


What did he do after he left here?
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 1:21 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:21 pm to
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Wrong


Nope.

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Your opinion is that LSU is better off not running the table in the SEC and beating texas than running the table in the SEC and losing to Texas.


To quote you, link?

Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:21 pm to
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I dont consider JB as seasoned when he got here. He had thrown 28 passes in big 12 play.


i simply meant he wasnt a TF starting from stratch.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:21 pm to
Did you have something other than an emoticon as a response?

ETA: Now that you've edited, what people do at other schools is relevant? I've read here several times that only LSU things are relevant.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:24 pm to
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We;'re talking about a troy type loss.


Nothing like an ambiguous definition (troy type, ) to bolster your argument.
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yes, you're trying to mix arguments. I again see what you're trying to do .

Oh no, I think EVERYONE reading this thread sees what you're trying to do. (hint: make up ambiguous definitions to justify what you cite as opinion, to be fact).

There's no shame in admitting that you may have misstated something as fact that is not. But go ahead and double down.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Nothing like an ambiguous definition (troy type, ) to bolster your argument.
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You specifically said Troy in your post I responded to.
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Oh no, I think EVERYONE reading this thread sees what you're trying to do. (hint: make up ambiguous definitions to justify what you cite as opinion, to be fact).
Nothing ambiguous. You specifically said Troy, I specifically responded to you about a loss to Troy. You then tried to take a different post I made to someone else about a different scenario and apply it to our conversation. This is a weak attempt at a gotcha, but not unexpected.
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There's no shame in admitting that you may have misstated something as fact that is not. But go ahead and double down


Good thing I didn't do that then.

ETA: I guess I better put the original posts in here since you seem to forget them:

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I didn't ask that. I asked which carries more weight. When vying for the SEC championship, and a chance to play for the national title, which is more devastating, a loss to OOC (Troy) or a loss to an SEC team?
Irrelevant because team that loses to Troy will never make the playoffs.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 1:29 pm
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:30 pm to
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And as it stands today Larry Coker is a more accomplished coach than our guy.


There is a long line of coaches who are more accomplished than O. It's laughable what ten wins, third in the west and fifth in the SEC with a shitty offense gets you these days.


Many of those excited over that would be shitting all over it just a few years ago.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:35 pm to
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Maybe but it does show the level of despair we had reached in trying to find competent QBs.



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