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re: Who is the best college football player of all time?

Posted on 8/7/09 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 10:10 am to
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they had a lot of players off that team drafted


And where is Engleberg now??? VT was on the way up with some talent at the time, but they didn't have the talent like they do now was the point I was making.
Posted by UHTiger
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 10:16 am to
recently, I'd think Randy Moss would have to be in the discussion. And had he stayed, Michael Crabtree.

My favorite was Barry Sanders, but Walker and even OJ were just as good.

Glad to see no Adrian Peterson arguments!

On D, the best I can remember seeing was probably Dieon Sanders.
Posted by Rob4LSU81285
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 10:19 am to
Tim Tebow will be but currently Barry Sanders
Posted by Buck Magnum
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 10:24 am to
Bo Jackson
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 11:26 am to
If u think tebow is the greatest cfb player ever you are retarded. All texas tech qb's get hammered bc they are system players. Isnt that what tebow Is?a great leader yes a great qb hell no. Does alex smith ring a bell? Urbans last big supetstar qb. Howd that turn out? My answer would be bo jackson with herschel probably second.
Posted by The Goon
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 11:28 am to
Didn't Bill Brasky play college ball?
Posted by sleviner
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 11:44 am to
beaux jackson
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 11:58 am to
tebow deserves to be in the conversation but id take Vince Young over him. remember VY left early, had he come back like tebows doing texas would have been the heavy favorites to win it again
Posted by Volmanac
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 2:29 pm to
I love the complete lack of awareness beyond the last three decades. The thread says "of all time" not "that you've seen personally".

Again, the answer is Red Grange, period. Thorpe is right behind him.
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 2:30 pm to
Vince Young..

He single handely dismantled the USC empire.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 2:33 pm to
H. Walker and its really not that close. BO was great but didn't have to go through what Walker did as far as CPG!!!! Week after week. Walker just kept coming and BASHING and SCORING!!! BO played in a triple -option backfield!!!!
Posted by kballa6
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 2:35 pm to
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H. Walker and its really not that close.


I have to agree.
Posted by StewieG
Team Hawthorne
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 2:43 pm to
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"Nobody is going to tackle Jim,"

And few did.Thorpe-The best college football player/athlete to ever grace this earth imo.
H. Walker in a distant second(dude was a BEAST at UGA)
Posted by brg0320
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/7/09 at 2:46 pm to
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Chic Harley


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Chic Harley
Date of birth: September 15, 1894
Place of birth: Chicago, Illinois
Date of death: April 21, 1974 (age 79)
Place of death: Columbus, Ohio
Career information
Position(s): Halfback, Quarterback, End, Kicker, Punter, Safety
College: Ohio State
Organizations
As player:
1921 Chicago Staleys
Playing stats at DatabaseFootball.com
College Football Hall of Fame
Charles Wesley "Chic" Harley (September 15, 1894 - April 21, 1974) was one of the outstanding American football players of the first half of the 20th century and the player who first brought the Ohio State University football program to national attention. Harley was Ohio State's first consensus first-team All-America selection and first three-time All-America selection. In 1951 he became a charter inductee in the College Football Hall of Fame.

Chic Harley attended East High School in Columbus, Ohio. In Harley's career at East High School, he lost only one game - his last game. So many people wanted to see Harley play, many times games at (the now) East High "Harley Field" outdrew Ohio State games.

In 1941, James Thurber described Chic Harley's running skills for the defunct New York newspaper PM, "If you never saw him run with a football, we can't describe it to you. It wasn't like Red Grange or Tom Harmon or anybody else. It was kind of a cross between music and cannon fire, and it brought your heart up under your ears."[1]

Contents [hide]
1 College career
1.1 Career scoring statistics
1.2 All-around athlete
2 Life Ups and Downs
3 Honors
4 Notes
5 External links



[edit] College career
Harley began his career with the Ohio State Buckeyes in 1916. He led the team to a 7-0 record and their first Big Ten Conference championship. The team scored 258 points in seven games, giving up only 29. The key games of the season were a 7-6 victory over the University of Illinois and a 14-13 victory over the University of Wisconsin-Madison, teams that were at the time the conference's dominant powers. In both games the margin of victory was a point after touchdown kicked by Harley. Following the season, Harley was named as a consensus first-team All-America selection, including a spot on Walter Camp's authoritative list.


Chic Harley runs around the end in the 1916 Big Ten championship game against NorthwesternThe Buckeyes repeated as conference champion in 1917 with an 8-0-1 record, and Harley repeated as a consensus first-team All American. In 1918 Harley left school to be a pilot in the United States Army Air Service during World War I, but he returned the following year. In 1919 the Buckeyes finished 6-1. Harley's only career loss was a heartbreaker; the team lost the game and the conference title to the University of Illinois on the last play of the last game of the season. That season, however, is remembered at Ohio State for the Buckeyes' first victory over the University of Michigan. Following that senior season, Harley was again a consensus first-team All-America selection.

Throughout his Ohio State career, Harley played right halfback on offense and safety on defense, and was also the team's punter and place kicker. He scored 201 points in a 23-game career. This total was the school's individual scoring record until Harley was surpassed by Howard "Hopalong" Cassady in 1955. Harley's 8.74 points per game remains a school record. Harley also holds the team record for interceptions in a game: he picked off four passes in the 1919 game against the University of Michigan.

In 1950 Harley was voted a first-team halfback on the Associated Press college football All-Star team for the first half of the 20th century. The other first-team halfback was Jim Thorpe. Red Grange was voted to the second team. When asked to explain his vote, one writer said, "Red Grange was a great runner, but that's all he was. Chic Harley was a great runner, a great passer, a great kicker and a great defensive back. That's why he's on my first-team."[2] In 1951 Harley was one of 44 players and coaches selected as the charter members of the College Football Hall of Fame.

In Harley's era the Buckeyes had played in Ohio Field, which had a seating capacity of only a few thousand. Harley so excited the fans of Ohio State football that he inspired a $1.3 million funding drive, starting in 1920, to build the massive Ohio Stadium. For this reason Ohio Stadium, where the Buckeyes still play, is sometimes called "The House That Harley Built".[3]


Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12722 posts
Posted on 8/7/09 at 2:48 pm to
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not yet. he needs another GREAT year to be in the conversation
I disagree. Tebow is most definitely in the conversation right now. He's lead his team to a National Championship (1 great year), produced possibly the most remarkable Heisman season ever as the 1st Sophomore winner and first 20 rushing/20 passing TD season ever (2 great years), and was a major contributor to another National Championship (at least a really good year).

So with two great years, another really good year, two National Championships and a Heisman Trophy, the man is definitely in the conversation. He's in Tommy Frazier territory. Another great year -- especially another National Championship year -- will pretty much end the conversation, not just put him in it (imo).

Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 8/7/09 at 3:54 pm to
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It's probably either Billy Cannon or Kevin Faulk


I love Faulk but he wasnt 1/10th of Bo Jackson!

Bo Jackson hands down.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78465 posts
Posted on 8/7/09 at 6:53 pm to
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If u think tebow is the greatest cfb player ever you are retarded. All texas tech qb's get hammered bc they are system players. Isnt that what tebow Is?


almost every great QB over the last 10-15 years has been in some kind of system...except for the USC QB's and Peyton Manning, i guess

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a great leader yes a great qb hell no.




quote:

Does alex smith ring a bell? Urbans last big supetstar qb. Howd that turn out?


the frick does this have to do with anything?
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12722 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:30 am to
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Does alex smith ring a bell? Urbans last big supetstar qb. Howd that turn out?
An undefeated season, a top 10 ranking and a BCS Bowl win for a non-BCS program. That's pretty darn good for anybody.

Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36709 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:32 am to
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It's probably either Billy Cannon or Kevin Faulk


k thx bye
Posted by LSU Jeff Buc10
South of Hattiesburg
Member since Oct 2008
299 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 1:26 am to
+1
I know it's supposed to be an opinion...
but really??? haha

pre-NFL era: Red Grange
Modern: Barry Sanders
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