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re: Who are you loyal to?

Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:42 am to
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:42 am to
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There seemed to be a slight downward trend while he was here (15 SEC wins, 12, 11, 9), but it's hard to really judge it because of the NCAA cloud hanging over him. Who knows if that would have continued or if this season would have been better than his last.


It's an interesting thought. He basically had 2 seasons where no assistant coaches would come here and the school would not let him hire any hot names even if they would. At the end of his tenure he had two assistants no other big program would have had on staff.
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:42 am to
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EdO is a POS. He destroyed what others built and only because of his midlife crisis. WW wrote a $5K check out of his personal checking account while he was at VCU. Everything WW did at LSU was to enhance LSU's MBB program. LSU fball is in a different sphere than LSUMBB. SW rightly fired EdO because EdO destroyed the program. SW choosing to fire WW destroyed our MBB program. I give EdO credit for being a good recruiter and for recruiting Joe B to play at LSU.

You could very very easily say WW destroyed LSU MBB because of his irresponsible behavior in recruiting.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:43 am to
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You could very very easily say WW destroyed LSU MBB because of his irresponsible behavior in recruiting.


You'd also have to acknowledge that to the extent he destroyed anything, it was only what he built. Look at his predecessors.
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1569 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:44 am to
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You'd also have to acknowledge that to the extent he destroyed anything, it was only what he built. Look at his predecessors.

So just because he helped build it up, it’s ok that he caused it to crumble?
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7539 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:45 am to
Right? How can you “destroy” something that’s believed by the OP to be mediocre.

I feel like Wade stole this guys girl or something. Seems like he has a personal vendetta against him that isn’t sports related.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 10:46 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25096 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:46 am to
Actually, no. I don't agree he destroyed it in the first instance. Second, that's clearly not what it says. Don't be emotional, just read it like a normal person. If he did indeed destroy it (meaning he was the cause), which is at best debatable, there was only something to destroy because he built it.
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1569 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:49 am to
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I feel like Wade stole this guys girl or something. Seems like he has a personal vendetta against him that isn’t sports related.

Not in the slightest. Pulled for him when he was here. Just feel like this place is obsessed with him and can’t move on. I’m pointing that out. Also pointing out that the situations between WW and O are very similar except O accomplished WAYYYYYYYY more than WW did yet everyone shits on him and treats WW as if he was the second coming of Christ.
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1569 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:52 am to
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Actually, no. I don't agree he destroyed it in the first instance. Second, that's clearly not what it says. Don't be emotional, just read it like a normal person. If he did indeed destroy it (meaning he was the cause), which is at best debatable, there was only something to destroy because he built it.

LSUs men’s basketball existed long before WW got here. And had a history as well. Not perfect but some very stellar moments. It will Exist long after WW has left.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25096 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:53 am to
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LSUs men’s basketball existed long before WW got here. And had a history as well. Not perfect but some very stellar moments. It will Exist long after WW has left.


Soooo . . . he didn't destroy it and couldn't if he wanted to? So why, exactly, did you post that he did?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2315 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:54 am to
Let’s geaux Pokes!
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1569 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:55 am to
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Soooo . . . he didn't destroy it and couldn't if he wanted to? So why, exactly, did you post that he did?

Ole boy kept saying how he built up to this great thing (which it really wasn’t). Just throwing it back at him.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7539 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:55 am to
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Just feel like this place is obsessed with him and can’t move on


So you start another thread about him? Do you still not see the irony? You can look to the future and not call his stint here “mediocre” knowing it would get a reaction. You stirred the pot, not trying to “move on.”

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Also pointing out that the situations between WW and O are very similar


Are you really comparing potentially paying players(which every school does) to all the things O did in the end? If you believe these two situations are even somewhat similar then you’re beyond reasoning with.

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O accomplished WAYYYYYYYY more than WW did


You’re also comparing maybe the greatest CFB season of all time against Wade’s time at LSU?

I would just stop while you’re ahead. The more you comment and post in here you just dig yourself a bigger hole. But hey, if you don’t mind looking foolish keep at it.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8925 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:04 am to
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Lemme ask you this, do you view O in the same regard?


Completely different scenarios. O earned his firing by letting the program dip to lows not seen since the 90s. Wade never finished lower than 3rd in the SEC.

I get that there are reasons that Wade was fired too but I think the school took the easy way out and tanked our program instead of sticking by our guy and seeing it through.

Would we have gotten more/bigger sanctions had we kept Wade? Maybe. But we sanctioned ourselves to the cellar by firing him and then hiring a guy who seems out of his league at this point. Doesn't matter if we would have been banned from the tournament for a few years cuz we basically banned ourselves.

With that said, if Mcmahon crushes the portal and has us competitive next year, I'll give him his props but until we start winning again, it looks like we killed our basketball program to try to stop the NCAA from killing our basketball program. We committed suicide because we were afraid we might get murdered. Not very smart if you ask me.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23061 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:09 am to
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Wade never finished lower than 3rd in the SEC.


He finished 9th, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14894 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:13 am to
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LSU isn’t serious about it so I stopped caring.


It's confusing living in a world where this is a viewpoint but there's also the viewpoint that LSU overpaid McMahon and they're stupid for doing so.

Personally, I think the "LSU doesn't care" argument is idiotic.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 11:14 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23061 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:17 am to
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It's confusing living in a world where this is a viewpoint but there's also the viewpoint that LSU overpaid McMahon and they're stupid for doing so.

Personally, I think the "LSU doesn't care" argument is idiotic.



It 100% is. Obviously LSU/Woodward want LSU Basketball to succeed. Outside of football, college basketball has the most potential to make money for the athletic department.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8925 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:18 am to
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He finished 9th, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th.


Cool. We finished 14th in 2022/23.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23061 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:21 am to
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Cool. We finished 14th in 2022/23.



Wasn't bashing Wade bud, just correcting wrong information.
Posted by mightynine
Member since May 2006
1200 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:24 am to
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The will wade obsession on here is weird. I swear some posters would let him frick their wife if he wanted to


Puts a whole new meaning to "strong arse offer"
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11975 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:28 am to
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The idiot who posted this is not a true LSU fan.




In your opinion, Woody.

A true LSU Fan, IMO, is a fan who wants the best for LSU and it's fans.
A political appointee does not always look out for the best interests of LSU, only what is best for him/her self.

Onl history will tell if firing Wade and hiring Mac was in whose best interest.

Was refusing to rehire Saban, in the best interest of LSU?
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