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re: Where does Orgeron rank as an LSU coach?

Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:13 pm to
Posted by la_birdman
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:13 pm to
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Brennan wins the UCLA game. No doubt about it.



Well Brennan didn't play so that is moot but why is it that Max, this year, is still not a suitable QB? Who does that fall on? Who is responsible for improving the players?

Remember, you just said that you said Ed was responsible for the development of Burrow, Chase, Jefferson, et all.

So why isn't Max a suitable QB? He's had over a year in Ed's program.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59853 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:13 pm to
Danny was middling. The year after that there was no QB being developed to take over. o had the foresight to go get burrow. Bam. Championship.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31592 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:16 pm to
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The year after that there was no QB being developed to take over


Brennan was already with the program then.

quote:

o had the foresight to go get burrow


You do know he didn't discover Burrow, yes? On top of that, Burrow got to LSU in 2018.

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59853 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:17 pm to
A Year is nothing for a QB. QBs with little experience look bad 9x outta 10. Max is a guy who will be very good in year 3 or 4. But as a freshman or sophomore. Nah. Too much to ask. Ask dabo about his #1 Qb DJ U. Qb takes time more times than not.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:17 pm to
Wrong again. Etling had the third highest passer rating in school history and you described him as “the worst it’s ever been here.” Of course now you’re backpedaling and trying to move the goalpost but you were wrong. And yes we had Brennan here developing so you’re wrong about that too.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59853 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:18 pm to
Brennan was a freshman with nothing behind him. Very rare for a freshman to win in this conference.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:20 pm to
“Brennan was a freshman with nothing behind him.”


So we need a conf championship 3rd string QB now? I guess O failed there too but I’m sure you’ll just inject another false claim or double standard to answer that.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 11:21 pm
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31592 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:21 pm to
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A Year is nothing for a QB


A year made a big difference with Burrow.


quote:

Max is a guy who will be very good in year 3 or 4


You just said that Ed developed all those guys in 2019 who are lighting it up in the pros now (in just 2019) but now Ed needs 3 years, at least to develop Max.

So he's not a suitable QB but you'll still make excuses for Ed.

Max looked better last season as a true freshman. He's regressing. Who's that on? Max? I guess it would have to be because you sure won't point the finger at Ed.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59853 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:23 pm to
The second year O was here he had one Qb who was a freshman and nothing behind him. Brennan. + nothing. Miles failed the program with QB position. Let me guess. It is O fault that Brennan wasn’t ready to win games In the SEC that year
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59853 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:24 pm to
Max is better this season than last. But still not a big time SEC QB. That is not knock on Max. Most QB need more time. Burrow is the exception.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:24 pm to
Another conflicting statement from this guy. This is what you get when you abandon the facts and just scurry from excuse to excuse using pure bias as your position on everything.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31592 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:26 pm to
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The second year O was here he had one Qb who was a freshman and nothing behind him


Wrong again.

Etling was still with LSU in 2017 (the second year Ed was the HC). Behind Etling was Brennan.

Get your facts straight.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31592 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:27 pm to
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Max is better this season than last


Oh boy.



Ok I've had all the fun I can stand here.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:28 pm to
Nope, Brennan had been here for a year, we had McMillan, Narcisse and Scott all here Os first year. Then he recruited Burrow and the others left. Again you’re making shite up or you’re just ignorant. Besides it’s not Miles job to recruit QBs for Orgeron after he’s no longer the head coach.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 11:29 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59853 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:28 pm to
Not many programs can sustain 2 seasons in a row of having to play the backup QB. We had bad luck. “Luck” played more of a role the last 2 seasons than it did the title season. That’s for sure.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:29 pm to
Wrong
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31592 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:29 pm to
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Another conflicting statement from this guy.


He's definitely trolling. Either that or he really doesn't know what he's talking about.

He sure seems to like Ed though and that's ok but if someone is realistically wanting to discuss things, you don't scurry away from simple questions when everyone knows the answer or just simple facts that don't support what he's saying.


It's been real but I'm done with his nonsense.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59853 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:30 pm to
Look at All of the trash QBs who miles brought on

But the program is worse now. My word.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59865 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:30 pm to
Moving the goalpost again and wrong again.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59853 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:31 pm to
This guy said miles left O with narcisse and Scott

What more do you need ?
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