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re: Where does LSU's offense rank this year?

Posted on 5/24/11 at 1:02 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260323 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 1:02 am to
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Pro Style huh?
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Nice try..


Was and is are two separate things. JJ isn't a pro style QB at the present time, he is considered a dual threat, sorta. I think his running game is ahead of his passing game at the present.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60287 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 1:14 am to
How many times do I have to explain the post to you? JJ supporters have continually said his passing stats don't matter. They say his rushing yards are what separates him from LSU's other QBs. They say he's a dual threat QB and his duplicity is the reason he is the starter. As much as you want to make what I said racist, it wasn't. Crying race foul is a classic tactic when you are all out of arguments.
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 3:09 am to
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How many times do I have to explain the post to you? JJ supporters have continually said his passing stats don't matter. They say his rushing yards are what separates him from LSU's other QBs. They say he's a dual threat QB and his duplicity is the reason he is the starter. As much as you want to make what I said racist, it wasn't. Crying race foul is a classic tactic when you are all out of arguments.


Yeaaaah... LINK


You lied about Monroe which was listed as Location: Monroe for years (since 2004) & you failed to answer the question: "Are you a black man?", when you stated you were not of the white race.


You believe that highly recruited QB, Jerrard Randall will not be good, as evidenced by your emoticon. Why?


As for your personal hate of Jefferson, he is #10 as a Junior, in Passing TDs. He holds the record for the longest TD Run by an LSU QB in Tiger Stadium.

You keep referencing "JJ Supporters". He is LSU's starting QB, until further notice. He's supported by LSU fans that want LSU to win & want all LSU's QBs to do well. You feel differently.
This post was edited on 5/24/11 at 3:20 am
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60287 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 3:45 am to
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Yeaaaah... LINK


It was a joke because you used the word Boy. A joke that flew right over your head.

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You lied about Monroe which was listed as Location: Monroe for years (since 2004)


I can say with 100% certainty that, "Monroe" has never been listed as my location.

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you failed to answer the question: "Are you a black man?", when you stated you were not of the white race.


So only black men aren't racist or considered white? I honestly thought your ridiculous question wasn't worth answering. I'll answer it now for you. No, I am not a black man. Guess that makes me racist.

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You believe that highly recruited QB, Jerrard Randall will not be good, as evidenced by your emoticon. Why?


I've said he will beat out Rivers and be the QB of the future. I've said this mulitple times on both the Rant and the Recruiting Board. I've said he has the strongest arm of any recruit in the nation this year and will not be another Shep. Kinda kills your racist comments huh?

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As for your personal hate of Jefferson, he is #10 as a Junior, in Passing TDs.


With how many starts? 27? How many quarterbacks in front and behind him have that many starts?

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He holds the record for the longest TD Run by an LSU QB in Tiger Stadium.


Hmmm, that would kinda make him a dual threat QB wouldn't it? Damn me for being racist and saying he was a dual threat quarterback earlier. I take it back. Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady all have the longest TD runs in the history of their teams.

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You keep referencing "JJ Supporters". He is LSU's starting QB, until further notice.


Something that I have said on here for quite a while. I've said multiple times that no matter what, he will be the starter for LSU and fans need to just accept it.

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He's supported by LSU fans that want LSU to win & want all LSU's QBs to do well. You feel differently.


I do feel differently because this simply is not true. If JJ's fanboys were LSU fans that want all LSU's QBs to do well as you say, they would not feel the need to run down Lee and Mett. They tear down Lee at every turn going back THREE YEARS as why he should not have a chance to start. They say Mett shouldn't have a chance because he hasn't started in the SEC yet, you made this argument just a few posts ago. Nevermind the fact that Cam Newton's career mirrored Mett's before he started last year for Auburn. That doesn't matter to you because you truly don't root for all LSU QBs to succeed. You have your favorite and will support him no matter how shitty he performs week in and week out.
This post was edited on 5/24/11 at 3:50 am
Posted by coonass73
Charleston, SC
Member since Jan 2007
44 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 3:56 am to
Huh?
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 5:39 am to
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I've said he will beat out Rivers and be the QB of the future. I've said this mulitple times on both the Rant and the Recruiting Board. I've said he has the strongest arm of any recruit in the nation this year and will not be another Shep. Kinda kills your racist comments huh?


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Randall = Shep

Rivers will be passing to Randall
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So next year will you start backing Jerrard Randall to start at QB? What will you do without JJ?

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I have a funny feeling they won't support Mett the next couple of years either. Something tells me Randall will become their new favorite



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Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29183 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 5:59 am to
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JJ isn't a pro style QB at the present time, he is considered a dual threat


A threat to our offensive rankings and passing stats? Is that what you mean by dual threat? He hasn't been a passing threat for two years-how Ridley gained >1000 yards facing a loaded box all season still seems like a miracle.

(trying to post before Non Cents wakes up)
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 6:41 am to
This shite is like the civil war. Man we are loaded next year and have great depth at qb. Can't we get along?
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26631 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 7:07 am to
Who are these people that keep talking down JL and building up JJ, and why do you not take into consideration the 2009 season when talking about passing stats? The only game he threw for under a hundred was Florida and our defense couldn't stop the Tebow dive and our OL didn't provide any running room to keep Florida guessing.

All that packing the box shite that I saw on here in 2009 and the following offseason is nowhere to be found now. What so every DC stopped doing what was so effective the previous year, shite please. We had no running game yet he still put up almost 2200 pass yards and 17 tds his true sophmore season.

I'll bring up the mental thing. After JL threw those ints his freshman year, JJ was told whatever he does he can't throw a int which is why he held on to the ball too long. Then the next year he was told not to take all those sacks so he starts jetting off as soon as his first or second read is not open or he throws one of his terrible passes for an int. Watch the 3 games he played in after JL went down in 08, he's not holding on to the ball and jettng off when his primary isn't open.

I'm hoping it was Crowton, not Miles, fricking his head up, which makes me optimistic about this upcoming season. Krags will be teaching him how to be a better passer than worrying about play selection all the time.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2842 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 7:17 am to
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What QB in the Nation do you think could have played Defense & stopped P4P, Cameron Newton?


Uuh any of several who could have actually completed some passes on 3rd down and kept the chains moving. Go back and watch the film in the 2nd half other than Spencer Ware's TD pass JJ led drive after drive of 3 and outs including several starting near or past midfield. Not too difficult to imagine a competent qb putting moving the ball keeping Auburn's offense off the field and putting points on the board. Something JJ and his 46 yards passing couldnt do.
This post was edited on 5/24/11 at 7:18 am
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60287 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 7:27 am to
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Who are these people that keep talking down JL and building up JJ


Seriously? It's in every thread about quarterbacks.

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why do you not take into consideration the 2009 season when talking about passing stats?


I've said on here multiple times that if JJ has his passing stats of 2009 and rushing stats of 2010 that LSU will win the national championship in 2011.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60287 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 7:33 am to
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Randall = Shep

Rivers will be passing to Randall.


Damn you're an idiot. If you would've read the entire thread instead of just trying to find something to slam me you would've read this:

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Oh yes wise one. You have me nailed. You would know my feelings on Randall and his golden arm, the best in this class, if YOU did any research. Oh wait, that's right, you just signed up this month. You weren't here when I was pimping this kid as the starter after Mett since he signed. I was kidding earlier in the thread. The argument is what was being said when he committed.


ETA: Sorry, I have slept 4 hours the last 2 days. There was no way for you to know I was kidding. Yes, I think Randall will be the starter and a damn fine one.


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I have a funny feeling they won't support Mett the next couple of years either. Something tells me Randall will become their new favorite


Regurgitate a bit? For oh the 5th time in this thread, I was referring to Randall being a dual threat vs Mett being a Pro Style. You know Xbox coaches that think you have to have a running QB to win? Nah, much easier for you to call me racist.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 10:30 am to
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(I know JJ supporters will talk about 11-2


Yeah, the 3rd best win total in LSU history is a tad inconvenient when the agenda of some is to label a position as worse in LSU history, huh.

It's amusing that before the season 90% of us wouldn't have given us a shot at winning 11 games with our current HC/JJ/JL, but after season it switches to we could have won a NC if not for JJ/JL. Go figure........

You can piss on JJ/JL till the cows come home, but the LSU staff knows better than you who affords LSU the best chance at winning and to this point in time...well, you know who that is, huh.

Look, the LSU QB slot appears to be in better shape than at any time since 07...why can't we just find comfort in that, enjoy the Cotton Bowl win, the Top 8 NR, and see what the future brings?


Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2842 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 11:21 am to
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It's amusing that before the season 90% of us wouldn't have given us a shot at winning 11 games with our current HC/JJ/JL, but after season it switches to we could have won a NC if not for JJ/JL. Go figure........


First of all I never said we couldnt have done as well or better with JL. In the time he played he was definitely more productive than JJ.

Second again just because we went 11-2 doesnt mean we couldnt have done better with a qb who actually contributed in more than 4 out of 13 games.

Again my question if Curley Hallman was coaching the team and I restate JJ's performance at qb was easily the equivalent of Hallman's coaching would you not want LSU to put a competent coach in his place?????????
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 11:50 am to
Can your fatass get out there and do a better job? Didn't Miles get rid of Crowton? Didn't he bring in a QB expert? Didn't he get Mett? Wasn't QB our biggest depth issue last year? How much more do you want?
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2842 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 11:54 am to
Hopefully I couldnt but propping up Jefferson in the spring and hearing JJ say he is the starter because he has been here three years and he thinks his play has been fine doesnt seem to me that they have gotten through to him yet. Not to mention his 4-14 passing in the spring. I keep hearing what great plays the LSU db's made and they did make some nice breaks but you would think a qb who really was making progress wouldnt throw to the guys who are covered.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 12:02 pm to
I watched that 4-14 and thought Simon saved a few tds.

You are supposed to throw to a receiver who is two steps in front of single coverage. JJ did. Simon is that good.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2842 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 12:05 pm to
Simon is definitely good JJ makes him look better
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 12:25 pm to
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I never said we couldnt have done as well or better with JL.


Easy for you to type, but pure conjecture.

This isn't:

JJ has accounted for 4500 total yds, 17 ints, and 33 TDs.

JL has accounted for 2500 total yds, 18 ints, and 18 TDs.

Mett...he has accounted for 0 total yds, 0 ints, and 0 TDs.

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just because we went 11-2 doesnt mean we couldnt have done better with a qb


Conjecture, but 11-2, the 3rd highest win total in LSU history isn't.

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if Curley Hallman


I don't play if, could of, or should of games. They are a waste of time and don't prove or disprove anything.

Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2842 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 12:31 pm to
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JJ has accounted for 4500 total yds, 17 ints, and 33 TDs.
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JL has accounted for 2500 total yds, 18 ints, and 18 TDs.
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Mett...he has accounted for 0 total yds, 0 ints, and 0 TDs.


We are talking about last year not career. Last year JJ threw an INT 1 out of every 21 passes JL 1 out of every 89. Which one looks like he is going in the right direction and which one is going in the wrong direction.

Obviously Mett hasnt played yet but based on performance it would take very little to improve on JJ's 2010.
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