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re: When was last time officials impacted an LSU game? Almost never IMO
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:13 pm to Chimlim
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:13 pm to Chimlim
quote:The 700 rushing yards we gave up to Arkansas that day didn't help either.
Still think LSU wins that game if not for that BS call on Helms.
06 Auburn is really the only one we have been completely screwed on IMO.
I thin we were helped tremendously by officials in 04 against Bama and against Troy later that same year. Bama was about to go ahead 17-6 and instead C Webb knocks a receiver down and returns the INT back for almost a TD.
Against Troy they have a TD called back late in the game on an iffy illegal motion and we wind up winning 24-20.
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 8:16 pm
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Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:15 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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We can also add Corey Webster's interference on a Bama receiver in the end zone with a game-clenching interception.
that happened early in the 3rd quarter with Bama leading at the time...hard to call that "game-clenching"
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:16 pm to Baloo
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, I'd like to thank the officials for the call in 2005 against Arizona St. That wasn't a catch.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:17 pm to GeauxGus
quote:You obviously are misinformed. This is some old timers myth. If you watch the replay the guys head is jerked around.
How about LSU v. Southern Cal in '79 - the infamous phantom "facemask" call against LSU on USC 4th down with under 2 minutes ... talk about effect the outcome ! good grief
However, there was a clear false start on the play and it should have been blown dead.
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:18 pm to Ole War Skule
quote:I was there.
Offensive pass interference call at vandy 1990 on Todd kinchen
It was awful
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:20 pm to alajones
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Bama was about to go ahead 17-6 and instead C Webb knocks a receiver down and returns the INT back for almost a TD.
he didn't make it back to mid-field, LSU didn't even score on that possession. Bama still had the opportunity to win the game but gave up 20 unanswered points. I agree the call was bad, but that didn't cost Bama the game.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:22 pm to ForeLSU
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that happened early in the 3rd quarter with Bama leading at the time...hard to call that "game-clenching"
Roger that! I thought it was late in the fourth.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:22 pm to ForeLSU
quote:I think one of us misremembering. I thought he returned it pretty far and we scored, then Bama fumbles and we score again.
he didn't make it back to mid-field, LSU didn't even score on that possession.
Not saying Bama wins, but 17-6 midway through the third makes it a completely different ball game.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:23 pm to alajones
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Offensive pass interference call at vandy 1990 on Todd kinchen
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I was there.
It was awful
One of the biggest BS calls EVER! TK makes an outstanding catch, plain-and-simple.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:31 pm to alajones
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I think one of us misremembering.
no, one of us went back and checked the drive chart, one didn't. I'll let you figure out which one you are.
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Not saying Bama wins, but 17-6 midway through the third makes it a completely different ball game.
no doubt we benefitted from the call
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:02 pm to ForeLSU
That non PI call was also an incredible Vlade Divac-esque flop job by Brown, the Alabama WR.
The reaction from the SEC the following week, compared to their reaction in every one of the LSU cases, is also telling.
The reaction from the SEC the following week, compared to their reaction in every one of the LSU cases, is also telling.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:06 pm to secman12
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when was last time officials really impacted a game for LSU, win or lose?
2011.
Had they ruled correctly, that Michael Williams caught the ball before losing it after he hit the ground. LSU loses that game.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:08 pm to alajones
I think he remembered correctly. At least that's how I remember it. Also, I think it was a good no call. The Bama receiver initiated contact with Webster. Not Webster's fault he got out-muscled.
As for the '06 Auburn game, I still have a quesy feeling every time we go to Auburn. That game was, as a another poster so adroitly put it, a litany of bad calls.
- - the terrible call on the replay of Hester's 4th down catch. He clearly took two steps before the ball was knocked loose. Instead of 1st and 10, we lose possession.
- - 2nd quarter. Auburn is in LSU territory, and completes a pass. A big hit jars the ball loose, but it's ruled down. Replay shows clearly the ball coming out. LSU recovered, but there was no official replay of the play. Auburn went on to score on that possession.
- - just before halftime, LaFell is mugged in the back of the end zone. Back judge and side judge were both staring right at it and no flag. Should have been 1st and goal on the play.
- - in the 3rd quarter, JR completes a long pass over the middle to the TE. Great catch. Big play. But wait, a flag for holding. The problem is, the guy they call it on is our Canadian guard (sorry, his name escapes me). He was playing with a huge wrap on his right hand, so he couldn't hold if he wanted to. In fact, the guy he was blocking got by him pretty easily and nearly got to JR before the throw.
- - then, of course, was the coup de grace - the stupidest call I think I've ever seen at any level of football. Millions of people saw Early Doucet get mugged before the ball and the safety got to him. A flag was correctly thrown, but the wrong call was made. It should have been defensive holding. It was also pass interference - interference which happened BEFORE the tip of the ball by the safety. I literally felt like I was gonna puke when they picked up the flag.
No one will EVER convince me that the crew that day was NOT in the tank for Auburn. You can get one call wrong here or there, but to make that many obvious mistakes, all in one team's favor, is near criminal.
As for the '06 Auburn game, I still have a quesy feeling every time we go to Auburn. That game was, as a another poster so adroitly put it, a litany of bad calls.
- - the terrible call on the replay of Hester's 4th down catch. He clearly took two steps before the ball was knocked loose. Instead of 1st and 10, we lose possession.
- - 2nd quarter. Auburn is in LSU territory, and completes a pass. A big hit jars the ball loose, but it's ruled down. Replay shows clearly the ball coming out. LSU recovered, but there was no official replay of the play. Auburn went on to score on that possession.
- - just before halftime, LaFell is mugged in the back of the end zone. Back judge and side judge were both staring right at it and no flag. Should have been 1st and goal on the play.
- - in the 3rd quarter, JR completes a long pass over the middle to the TE. Great catch. Big play. But wait, a flag for holding. The problem is, the guy they call it on is our Canadian guard (sorry, his name escapes me). He was playing with a huge wrap on his right hand, so he couldn't hold if he wanted to. In fact, the guy he was blocking got by him pretty easily and nearly got to JR before the throw.
- - then, of course, was the coup de grace - the stupidest call I think I've ever seen at any level of football. Millions of people saw Early Doucet get mugged before the ball and the safety got to him. A flag was correctly thrown, but the wrong call was made. It should have been defensive holding. It was also pass interference - interference which happened BEFORE the tip of the ball by the safety. I literally felt like I was gonna puke when they picked up the flag.
No one will EVER convince me that the crew that day was NOT in the tank for Auburn. You can get one call wrong here or there, but to make that many obvious mistakes, all in one team's favor, is near criminal.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:10 pm to ForeLSU
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no, one of us went back and checked the drive chart, one didn't. I'll let you figure out which one you are
I do not have near the class you do in these responses, but I do try.
Most of the, well, some of the time.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:12 pm to LOYALBAMA
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that Michael Williams caught the ball before losing it after he hit the ground
Except he started losing it before he was down so they
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ruled correctly
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:14 pm to LOYALBAMA
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Had they ruled correctly, that Michael Williams caught the ball before losing it after he hit the ground. LSU loses that game
Congrats on being the first Bama fan I've come across to actually believe this is what happened, after all of the replays, angles, and explanations that have been discussed.
Do other Bama fans associate with you much?
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:21 pm to LOYALBAMA
I do believe you are the only person on Earth who believes that. Well, maybe you and Harvey Updyke (or are you Harvey Updyke).
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:26 pm to OXID11
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The guy that blew that call was an Auburn grad
in 2006 the SEC allowed the home team to supply the Replay "official". The SEC recognized the error of that plan and began providing the replay official in 2007.
What I do not understand is why the head of the SEC officials in 2009, Burleson, was allowed to be in the replay booth and influence the call on the PP& interception.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:28 pm to tigernchicago
SEC = Best football, worst officials
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:00 pm to OXID11
PP7's pick. Funny thing about this play, is that all of his draft highlights had this play...
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