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re: What’s This “Bowls are Meaningless” Narrative?

Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by BradL13
Member since Sep 2017
35 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:39 pm to
You're exactly right lol bowl games are meaningless. If they never started playing them no one would ask for a game after the season is over. Once you play your schedule and you do not advance to the post season, your year should be over. I'll never fault a player for securing their future over a pointless game that no one will talk about in a year. People just want more football to watch and instead of saying that they act like the game means something.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:39 pm to
Why you shitting on donte Jackson
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:40 pm to
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I think the most valuable aspect of becoming bowl eligible is the extra month of practice for the young guys on the team to prepare them for an increase in playing time next year



This. This is really the only practical use for non playoff bowls.

This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:44 pm to
For every team that doesnt win the NC or there conferance, their final poll ranking is the grade on their season. Polls are greatly influenced by the bowl games. The other thing important to college football programs is how they are perceived nationally. Again bowl games are very important for this as well. Dont underestimate the importance of the bowl game.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 1:46 pm
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
4459 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:45 pm to
so what if the player is playing for the national championship and has a career ending injury. was it still worth it to play in the game!
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:45 pm to
Correct on all counts.

I don't agree w/ the narrative.

At the same time, it's not a fan's place to question the decision Williams made, not to play in the bowl game. In my opinion.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:49 pm to
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You do. If a NY6 bowl is meaningless then what is an Indy bowl berth? Double extra super meaningless?



I don't think they're truly meaningless, I just think they're the least meaningful game on the schedule. There is a difference.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:54 pm to
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So with this premise, the only logical conclusion to make would be that Rice is arguably the most important or second most important game on our schedule. But we know that is complete hogwash, so maybe your rationalization of how to determine the importance of games needs to be reevaluated.


If your goal to start the season is to win your division and then your conference - which is absolutely LSU's goal - then the Rice game obviously falls behind conference games. You can rank it among the OOC however you wish, but ultimately it's still a more impactful game on the season than the bowl game.
Posted by DecadePlusLurker
Member since Sep 2016
698 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:56 pm to
And I’ve explained why, imo, that’s really dumb. But we’ve stated our points and I’m not gonna talk in circles about it. Geaux Tigers, beat Boise 2.0.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:04 pm to
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Geaux Tigers, beat Boise 2.0.


Agreed. Still pulling for LSU regardless.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:08 pm to
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You'll grow out of it, kid



I hope not. I’d hate to think this bullshite exhibition means something. That would be sad and pathetic to believe it does. What kind of loser in life would actually believe this participation trophy bowl means something?
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12815 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:09 pm to
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so what if the player is playing for the national championship and has a career ending injury. was it still worth it to play in the game!
Only the individual player could answer that for you. That's a case of weighing team goals vs personal goals. Would possibly winning the national championship be worth the possibility of getting significantly injured and losing millions of dollars in draft valuation?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:11 pm to
However you want to rank its importance relative other games, it is still a very important game and beating UCF is going to improve our final poll ranking and end the season on a good note and be good for the perception of our program, and give good momentum going into the 2019 season, just as losing will frick up a very good season. Just as losing to Notre Dame in the bowl had a lot of negative effects last season. Among other things, winning or losing the bowl game goes a long way to setting the narrative for the whole offseason

Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:15 pm to
Most fans, media, coaches and players believe this "participation trophy" means something. But you can go on believing what you believe.
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
2659 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:17 pm to
unless you make the playoff it doesn't matter to me. I watch it like an exhibition game, which is why I understand when star players skip.

It would be like if the NFL had extra games for teams who didn't make the playoffs, and dont have a top 5 pick in the draft. people would watch and want to win, but the game itself is pointless
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:17 pm to
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it is still a very important game and beating UCF is going to improve our final poll ranking and end the season on a good note and be good for the perception of our program,



No it’s not. They are UCF. Nobody is taking them serious as a real “contender” for anything.

We have NOTHING to gain from this game. If we win, it will just be your usual “we told you UCF wasn’t ready for big boy play” from the talking heads. If we lose it will be “we told you LSU wasn’t a top 15 team. They got beat by UCF. See how bad they are”.

There is no scenario where LSU comes out looking better.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 2:19 pm
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Most fans, media, coaches and players believe this "participation trophy" means something.


No they don’t.


But you keep on in your delusional world.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298906 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:27 pm to
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No they don’t.


They absolurptely do. Bowl games set the expectations and excitement for the next year
Posted by O_Feelya
Member since Nov 2018
26 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:40 pm to
Other than a claim that we made a NY6 bowl, it really means nothing. It's a bragging rights thing and realistically its silly. There are tons of these bowls, even the NY6 ones and it dilutes the value of getting to one.

LSU nor any other team is getting to a BCS bowl with 3 losses and 3rd in their division back in the BCS days.

All that's happened is more people get to claim success by some made up metric. Hell 4-loss UT got into one of these.

In the end, bowl games are exhibitions. They are meaningless other than perception.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:43 pm to
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Bowl games set the expectations and excitement for the next year


Which is kind of silly in it's own right, but I agree they're a bigger deal for the upcoming season than they are for the current season.
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