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re: What’s This “Bowls are Meaningless” Narrative?
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:31 pm to DeathValley85
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:31 pm to DeathValley85
It’s the rant. These sissy’s change the narrative daily
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:36 pm to slackster
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slackster
Do you honestly not see what a retarded, fallacious, disingenuous argument that is? If for some totally arbitrary reason I could only pick a win over one or the other, of course I’d take the win over Rice. Not because the Rice game is more meaningful. BECAUSE LSU SHOULD NEVER LOSE TO frickING RICE. The Rice game only could’ve ever been meaningful in any way, shape, or form if we lost it. If we win, no one congratulates us. They say, welp, LSU didn’t choke. If we lose, they say damn, LSU choked. That’s the definition of a pointless game. One where you stand to gain literally nothing by winning.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:36 pm to slackster
Since everthing other than winning the NC or your conferance in college football is about perception, they are very meaningfull
Most of this narrative started before the aTm game when O negs noticed it had become very possible that we would win 11 games. That was when most of the "bowl games dont mean anything" narrative started.
Most of this narrative started before the aTm game when O negs noticed it had become very possible that we would win 11 games. That was when most of the "bowl games dont mean anything" narrative started.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:41 pm to boxcar willie
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Most of this narrative started before the aTm game when O negs noticed it had become very possible that we would win 11 games. That was when most of the "bowl games dont mean anything" narrative started.
As usual, you're full of shite
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:42 pm to DecadePlusLurker
If we would have lost to Rice, we probably wouldn't be playing UCF. Regular season games are always more meaningful because they impact your chances of getting to the playoffs. Playing in non-playoff game AFTER the playoff teams have been selected has no impact on anything. It doesn't effect our chances next year one iota and it certainly didn't effect this year since it's over.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:45 pm to DeathValley85
They are meaningless for potential 1st round guys. You guys can twist it into whatever you want and call the guy selfish but It's a 30 million dollar decision. Deal with it! I rather let one of the younger guys(Joseph, Kirklin, Vincent, etc) ball out and gain some confidence going into the offseason.
Compete for championships instead of blowing games like Florida and A&M! That will alleviate the problem.
Compete for championships instead of blowing games like Florida and A&M! That will alleviate the problem.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:45 pm to DecadePlusLurker
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That’s the definition of a pointless game. One where you stand to gain literally nothing by winning.
Nah. There are two sides to that coin. What do you stand to gain by winning and what do you lose by losing.
I contend the net result of losing to Rice outweighs anything you can gain from beating UCF, therefore, that game is more meaningful to the overall season.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:46 pm to slackster
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If I told you LSU was going to go 2-1 vs A&M, Rice, and a NY6 opponent, what game would you be able to stomach the best?
A&M because it was on the road and the toughest opponent. I think they were favored in the game. It was also not the last game of the year on NC.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:47 pm to DeathValley85
Miserable frickers who hate life in general.
The bowl season is awesome
The bowl season is awesome
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:47 pm to tigertex1992
Oh gee, so regular season record affects bowl placement? When did that start?
But so wait, if bowls that aren’t the playoffs are meaningless.. and regular season games are what get us to those meaningless bowls... doesn’t that ultimately make the regular season games just as meaningless as the meaningless bowls they determine? frick man. All this nihilism.
But so wait, if bowls that aren’t the playoffs are meaningless.. and regular season games are what get us to those meaningless bowls... doesn’t that ultimately make the regular season games just as meaningless as the meaningless bowls they determine? frick man. All this nihilism.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The bowl season is awesome
Nope. It’s stupid. That’s why we are playing a podunk little shite school.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:49 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Umm..... What? Beating Arkansas help LSU improve their conference ranking. Without it LSU would have finished even worse in the conference. I'd also be willing to bet the house that a loss to UCF in the Fiesta Bowl doesn't hurt LSU in the rankings as much as a lost to rice at home does.
Was hoping you answered it this way. So if the point of those games was to earn the bowl birth we did, how can you say that game is less meaningful?
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I'd also be willing to bet the house that a loss to UCF in the Fiesta Bowl doesn't hurt LSU in the rankings as much as a lost to rice at home does.
And I'd bet the house a win in the Fiesta Bowl helps LSU's ranking more than beating Rice did.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:52 pm to slackster
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I contend the net result of losing to Rice outweighs anything you can gain from beating UCF, therefore, that game is more meaningful to the overall season.
Well, the net result of losing to Rice would outweigh any game we played all season outside Alabama. Rice was, quite literally, the worst team in FBS football this year. Had we lost to them at any point in the season, we would have dropped completely out of the rankings. No win, outside Alabama, would have had that much of an effect either way. So are we truly going to say Rice was the most important game of the season because of the net result of a loss to them compared to a win over someone else?
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:52 pm to DeathValley85
It justifies their stance on the issue of sitting out of bowl games. Every damn game is important and is another chance to prove your worth/dominance over another power 5 team from some other conference. That last game may be what sways a recruit's decision to play for your team. The character and competitiveness at which Devin White plays is the reason I felt very confident he would play in the bowl game, because it "means" something to him.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:55 pm to DeathValley85
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If bowls are meaningless then why were there so many threads during championship weekend hoping we get a shot at an NY6 bowl?
Because there are a zillion bowls and the only good ones are on New Years Day (and maybe New Years Eve). In other words, any Tom, Dick or Harry can qualify for a Bowl game (see participation trophy). There are only a handful of decent Bowls.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:55 pm to slackster
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There are two sides to that coin. What do you stand to gain by winning and what do you lose by losing. I contend the net result of losing to Rice outweighs anything you can gain from beating UCF, therefore, that game is more meaningful to the overall season.
But by your own logic, LSU would’ve had nothing to lose by losing to Rice. Because if it’s playoffs or bust then who gives a shite? We were already a very long shot at best, and we had a screwjob in CS courtesy of Birmingham coming down the pipeline anyway.
So again, by your logic, none of it would’ve mattered. Because apparently beating an undefeated team in a NY6 Bowl is the exact same thing as losing to .500 team in the Indy bowl.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:57 pm to CBandits82
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What does winning a bowl mean though?
What does winning a NC mean? Enjoy the games.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:02 pm to DecadePlusLurker
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exposure in a media market we never play in.
LSU is a national brand on TV every weekend, we had game day, played twice in primetime, and in the 230 CBS time slot. This isn't the 80's we have plenty of media exposure, the media exposure for power 5 schools doesn't carry the weight it used to.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:02 pm to lsufball19
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Well, the net result of losing to Rice would outweigh any game we played all season outside Alabama. Rice was, quite literally, the worst team in FBS football this year. Had we lost to them at any point in the season, we would have dropped completely out of the rankings. No win, outside Alabama, would have had that much of an effect either way. So are we truly going to say Rice was the most important game of the season because of the net result of a loss to them compared to a win over someone else?
We're coming off a season where we lost to Troy, and that loss was incredibly impactful. That being said, it's an OOC game, so I can't put it above the importance of any conference games.
As ridiculous as it sounds - because we can hardly contemplate a loss there - the Rice game is more impactful than a non-playoff bowl game.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:04 pm to DecadePlusLurker
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. Because apparently beating an undefeated team in a NY6 Bowl is the exact same thing as losing to .500 team in the Indy bowl.
Huh? Who says that?
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But by your own logic, LSU would’ve had nothing to lose by losing to Rice. Because if it’s playoffs or bust then who gives a shite?
I didn't say it was playoffs or bust during the regular season, I'm just pointing out that relatively speaking, the bowl game is the least important of the lot.
That doesn't mean all bowl games are created equal.
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