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re: What were your thoughts on LSU's offense this weekend
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:09 pm to LSBoosie
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:09 pm to LSBoosie
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What if there’s a better strategy?
Pitch it to the coach.
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You haven’t responded to my question about how many managers have their best conference hitter in the 9 hole.
I don’t give a shite about your question. I’m giving all of you gnashing your teeth about why Stanfield is in the 9 hole a legitimate reason. Whether you like it or not, it’s a strategy that has become more popular.
You don’t have to agree with it. I happen to like it because I like the idea of the guy with a 41 game on base streak staying in the leadoff spot. Curiel seems very comfortable there. It still gives LSU chances at big innings late with Stanfield/Curiel getting on base and the run producers behind them.
If Jay decided to go away from that strategy I’d much rather see Stanfield in the 2 hole than leading off. Just a personal preference.
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:18 pm to RB10
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If Jay decided to go away from that strategy I’d much rather see Stanfield in the 2 hole than leading off. Just a personal preference.
I dont think anyone here would have a problem with that too. Whether its him hitting 1,2, 5, or 6, it would make more sense than having him at 9 considering his production
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:29 pm to josh336
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I dont think anyone here would have a problem with that too. Whether its him hitting 1,2, 5, or 6, it would make more sense than having him at 9 considering his production
The only stat that LSU doesn’t seem to post is average with RISP. The only reason I can think they have Stanfield down rather than hitting in a premium spot is he doesn’t produce with runners on at a high enough clip.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:30 pm to RB10
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I’m giving all of you gnashing your teeth about why Stanfield is in the 9 hole a legitimate reason. Whether you like it or not, it’s a strategy that has become more popular.
And we are giving you legitimate reasons as to why Stanfield shouldn’t be in the 9 hole.
quote:And some people like the strategy of the better hitters being at the top of the lineup.
You don’t have to agree with it. I happen to like it because I like the idea of the guy with a 41 game on base streak staying in the leadoff spot. Curiel seems very comfortable there. It still gives LSU chances at big innings late with Stanfield/Curiel getting on base and the run producers behind them.
You said this:
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Just to be clear, you guys are advocating we remove Curiel from the leadoff spot and not utilize the second leadoff man approach with a good hitter in Stanfield?
Can anyone actually explain why that’s a good idea?
Several people have given multiple reasons as to why it might be a good idea. People are just answering the question that you asked.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:34 pm to RB10
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The only stat that LSU doesn’t seem to post is average with RISP
Because its a pretty useless stat. Their production with no one on base is almost equivalent to their offense production with runners on given a large enough sample size
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:36 pm to LSBoosie
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And we are giving you legitimate reasons as to why Stanfield shouldn’t be in the 9 hole.
You can make a case to have Stanfield anywhere from 1-9. It all depends on how you want to construct your lineup.
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Several people have given multiple reasons as to why it might be a good idea. People are just answering the question that you asked.
You’ll notice I haven’t said anyone was wrong. Only that I disagree with the idea that Stanfield HAS to hit at the top of the order.
Again, there are a lot of ways to construct a lineup. Johnson seems to like power guys in the 2 hole. Stanfield will probably never hit there for him even though I think we all agree it would work fine.
Like it or not, Johnson clearly views Jones as the premier bat in the order.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:38 pm to RB10
I wont disagree with johnson there. The only way this lineup can be as good as hoped, is if jones eventually shines. Go down with that ship offensively. Kinda like this staff will be as good, but the potential is capped if we dont keep going to shores
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:39 pm to RB10
quote:Well this just isn’t true because you’ve been parroting the fricking “another lead off man” at the bottom of the order line for 4 pages now.
The only reason I can think they have Stanfield down rather than hitting in a premium spot is he doesn’t produce with runners on at a high enough clip.
quote:Probably because it’s only slightly less random than average in night games when the barometric pressure is above a certain point and the wind is blowing out of the northwest.
The only stat that LSU doesn’t seem to post is average with RISP.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:43 pm to The Egg
I think the problem with the offense is we have 4 lead off hitters in the lineup with Curiel, Stanfield, Braswell, and even Dickinson. That’s why we leave a lot LOB. Missing a Tommy white type hitter in that 3 or 4-hole and bear struggling does not help either
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:51 pm to josh336
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Because its a pretty useless stat. Their production with no one on base is almost equivalent to their offense production with runners on given a large enough sample size
Well, the LSU staff disagrees with you. The only reason to have Stanfield in the 9 hole is because they feel he’s better suited to get on for the run producers than being in those spots himself. I have no idea if their metrics bear that out somehow or not, just pointing it out.
And just for the record, I didn’t like Dickinson leading off tonight either. If they are moving Curiel out of that spot I do agree that it should be Stanfield taking it over.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:52 pm to RB10
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You’ll notice I haven’t said anyone was wrong.
I mean I guess you didn’t explicitly say “you’re wrong” but you’ve certainly implied it.
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Only that I disagree with the idea that Stanfield HAS to hit at the top of the order.
You said he shouldn’t be hitting anywhere in the 1-5 holes. I don’t think anyone is saying that he HAS to hit at the top of the order as we’ve seen him hit at the bottom all year long. I think people are suggesting that maybe it’s smart to get your best hitters as many at bats as possible instead of the least amount of at bats as possible.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:55 pm to MOT
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Well this just isn’t true because you’ve been parroting the fricking “another lead off man” at the bottom of the order line for 4 pages now.
Maybe they’re just putting him there as a big “frick you” to him and not because their numbers say that’s where he’s best suited for their lineup?
I don’t know. I’m just giving you the lineup construction strategy they’re using. Second leadoff (9 hole not 6 hole) and Stanfield really is perfect for that role.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:57 pm to LSBoosie
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You said he shouldn’t be hitting anywhere in the 1-5 holes.
Personally, I wouldn’t. I like what they’re doing with him.
Posted on 4/20/25 at 12:39 am to LSBoosie
I agree with you. What else does the guy have to do to earn his trust?
Posted on 4/20/25 at 2:11 am to RB10
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Well, the LSU staff disagrees with you
, no jay doesnt, ive heard his stance before on hitting with RISP quote:
I have no idea if their metrics bear that out somehow or not, just pointing it out.
you have no idea if the metrics point to that, but you think the staff disagrees with me, lolPosted on 4/20/25 at 9:05 am to josh336
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you have no idea if the metrics point to that, but you think the staff disagrees with me, lol
I mean, he’s hitting in the 9 hole despite his numbers. So yes, they disagree with you right now.
Posted on 4/20/25 at 1:09 pm to RB10
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The only stat that LSU doesn’t seem to post is average with RISP. The only reason I can think they have Stanfield down rather than hitting in a premium spot is he doesn’t produce with runners on at a high enough clip.
Stolen from another thread
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Dickinson, Curiel, Frey, Jones, Brown, Larson, and Stanfield all have over .333 BA with RISP on the season.
Milam .291
Pearson .200
Brasswell .250
Hernandez .258
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