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re: What specifically is your beef with Coach E's offense?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:57 am to GumboPot
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:57 am to GumboPot
Ensminger has been the coach for a full season and we still cannot execute a simple screen.
We had problems stopping pressure and can't run a screen. That is 1000000% a coaching problem, and if you can't do those basic things, it's difficult for me to have faith you'll develop players and a good offense.
We had problems stopping pressure and can't run a screen. That is 1000000% a coaching problem, and if you can't do those basic things, it's difficult for me to have faith you'll develop players and a good offense.
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:58 am to Rickdaddy4188
The great part about execution is that it’s never really wrong.
If A high school team executes every play they should beat the Patriots.
The problem is that the opposing team is also playing a game and trying to execute.
If you’re getting beat physically it gets harder to execute, and it’s harder to execute certain plays when the other team is physically more talented.
Being predictable makes it easier for the defense to execute., and that’s an issue.
Running long developing routes means your OL has to block longer which makes it harder to execute.
Scheme effects execution.
Talent effects execution.
The issue is we don’t have the talent to just bully other teams around like we used to. Alabama is very much ahead of us, and the gap has closed with alot of the other teams in the league
If A high school team executes every play they should beat the Patriots.
The problem is that the opposing team is also playing a game and trying to execute.
If you’re getting beat physically it gets harder to execute, and it’s harder to execute certain plays when the other team is physically more talented.
Being predictable makes it easier for the defense to execute., and that’s an issue.
Running long developing routes means your OL has to block longer which makes it harder to execute.
Scheme effects execution.
Talent effects execution.
The issue is we don’t have the talent to just bully other teams around like we used to. Alabama is very much ahead of us, and the gap has closed with alot of the other teams in the league
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:58 am to Topwater Trout
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Everyone forgets that our arguably best team ever scored 9 pts vs bama in 8+ quarters
So basically, we've gotten worse...
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:58 am to Topwater Trout
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Oklahoma may have the best oline in the country...the heisman winner at QB that ran for over 100 yds and you are really trying to compare what they did vs bama to us? holy frick the talent level offensively isn't even comparable
Considering that we recruit at the very least equally with OU, and much more likely at a higher level, you realize that you're making the case that offensive players aren't developed here as well ads they are at other schools, right?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:58 am to Rickdaddy4188
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nstea dof spreading them out and attacking their weakness( pass defense)
we tried that and they still were getting to JB as if they weren't being blocked. Our line sucked...musch worse line than when we had LF and you remember how much they dominated us then don't you
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:59 am to GumboPot
We are 59th in the nation for total offense. Tulane is 60th for Christ’s sake!
I just want an offense that makes people nervous, An offense that can score on Bama, and an offense that looks to run up the score!
Not expecting a top 5 total offensive team, but if we were a top 20 offense, this would give us the little needed edge to beat anyone!
I just want an offense that makes people nervous, An offense that can score on Bama, and an offense that looks to run up the score!
Not expecting a top 5 total offensive team, but if we were a top 20 offense, this would give us the little needed edge to beat anyone!
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:00 am to Rickdaddy4188
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He constantly had us a dinosaur max protect which brings more defenders to the los. In today's cfb you spread teams out. Max protect limits the options for our qb
Yes. You have to do something to force the LBs to have to play coverage, not give them more of a green light to rush the passer.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:00 am to GumboPot
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:00 am to SammyTiger
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Scheme effects execution.
Talent effects execution.
Agreed but if teams like Southeastern are holding you to 63 yards and 3 1st downs in a half, talent isnt your biggest issue.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:01 am to SammyTiger
They scored on bamas second and third string when the game was totally out of reach.
Schemes mean zero when you are outclassed and the other teams execution is very good. It doesn't even have to be perfect.
Scheme doesn't beat better players and execution.
Oh, I forgot. It can on playstation.
Schemes mean zero when you are outclassed and the other teams execution is very good. It doesn't even have to be perfect.
Scheme doesn't beat better players and execution.
Oh, I forgot. It can on playstation.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:02 am to TGFN57
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They scored on bamas second and third string when the game was totally out of reach
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Scheme doesn't beat better players and execution.
What is your excuse for the horrible offensive performances against LaTecch and SouthEastern?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:02 am to husslemane
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You have to do something to force the LBs to have to play coverage, not give them more of a green light to rush the passer.
Once he went to max protect in the bama gamen i knew it was over. He let bama bring in the strength of their team which is their front 7 and just oin their ears back and rush to the same spot all game because he never tried to move the pocket all year.
He didnt call a single roll out all year. Not one. Who does that when they have a shaky oline? Who has a shaky oline and fails to teach the team how to execute a screen play?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:02 am to tigerfan0082
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We are 59th in the nation for total offense.
We're 69h, and that's largely because we had more possessions than most teams due to our defense. If you look at yards per play, we're 84th.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:04 am to Topwater Trout
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we tried that and they still were getting to JB as if they weren't being blocked.
No we didnt. We went max protect. You cant sit here and tell me we went 4 wide and and spread them out the majority of the 1st half. It's just not true.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:05 am to TGFN57
No they didn’t. You’re talking out your arse.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 10:06 am
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:05 am to TGFN57
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They scored on bamas second and third string when the game was totally out of reach.
Schemes mean zero when you are outclassed and the other teams execution is very good. It doesn't even have to be perfect.
Scheme doesn't beat better players and execution.
Oh, I forgot. It can on playstation
So whats your excuse for Southeastern holding us to 63 2nd half yards and 3 1st downs?
What about la tech shutting us down?
Are we not talented enough to move the ball on them either?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:05 am to GumboPot
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I don't know how you out scheme a defense when 3-4 men on your offense are getting consistently beat play after play.
Good thing we aren’t paying you to come up with the answer to that question. We are paying O and E.
Your OP suggests you know something about football, and this thread has the feel of you trying to “well, actually” people who don’t know the finer points of offensive scheming.
But you seem to be missing the forest for the trees. I don’t care what the scheme is. If it’s not producing on the field, the coaches need to adapt and do something to produce.
It’s not up to me and you to figure out the right scheme.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 10:06 am
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:07 am to Rickdaddy4188
Army shut down OU...teams don't get up for everyone in college
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:08 am to Topwater Trout
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Oklahoma may have the best oline in the country...the heisman winner at QB that ran for over 100 yds and you are really trying to compare what they did vs bama to us? holy frick the talent level offensively isn't even comparable
Thanks for proving my point. Is the talent level offensively really not compareable? Has OU brought in players that are THAT much more talented than ours?
The answer to that is no, they haven't. So, then tell me where the issues must be.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:09 am to GumboPot
My biggest problem is not pulling out all the stops to at least score a point against Bama. E had 8 quarters and could not score a single point. I don't Expect E to score as many points against Bama as Oklahoma or Georgia or even Citadel. But at least make at an attempt to try to get on the scoreboard.
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