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tigbit
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What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
..drugs? I can see if the drug gives a competitive advantage, then the NCAA has to stop cheating. But, the tests for other drugs, that are not performance enhancing, but are illegal - what is the reason? Shouldn't they have to test all students and not single out the athletes of major sports?



LSUGrad9295
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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But, the tests for other drugs, that are not performance enhancing, but are illegal - what is the reason? Shouldn't they have to test all students and not single out the athletes of major sports?


Just when I thought this site couldn't get any dumber....


tigbit
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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Just when I thought this site couldn't get any dumber....


Enlighten me genius.


Cosmo
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
They are illegal?

Its not that difficult. Free tuition, free room and board, opportunity to make millions in nfl and one of the few things you have to do is not smoke weed.

Dumbasses still smoke weed.


Air_Raid7
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
What's the justification for using drugs, when you know it can terminate your eligibility?


tigbit
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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Its not that difficult. Free tuition, free room and board, opportunity to make millions in nfl and one of the few things you have to do is not smoke weed.



Same could be said for "TOPS" recipients.


tigbit
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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What's the justification for using drugs, when you know it can terminate your eligibility?




This is not a moral or logical question, it is a legal question.


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Cosmo
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
There arent millions on the line for tops kids


tigbit
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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There arent millions on the line for tops kids



CEO's make millions, some doctors make millions, many graduates go on to do well. The amount that a person is expected to make upon graduation has nothing to do with the legal justification to single out a certain group now.


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LSUGrad9295
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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Just when I thought this site couldn't get any dumber....


Enlighten me genius.


Just like any other organization, the NCAA has rules that its members must follow. If you want to be part of the organization, the burden is on you to follow the rules. The NCAA has a list of things that are banned, some of which can be taken legally, and some of which can't. It is pretty simple. If you take a substance that is on the list, then you can't participate in the organization.

Why does the NCAA ban "illegal" substances?? Oh, I dunno. Maybe they don't want illegal activity in their organization? Just a guess.


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tigbit
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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Why does the NCAA ban "illegal" substances?? Oh, I dunno. Maybe they don't want illegal activity in their organization? Just a guess.


So, do they then not test for these substances in states where they are legal? Yes, they do. So, the fact that they are illegal can not be the driving force. I am looking for their legal justification, not just "because the NCAA says so"


LSUGrad9295
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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am looking for their legal justification, not just "because the NCAA says so"




A student's standing in the NCAA is not a right, it is a privilege. Follow their rules or GTFO. I am not sure how this keeps getting past you.


SportTiger1
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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Enlighten me genius.


NCAA only test for PEDs. The universities test for other drugs to ensure youre acting right.

that was my understanding anyway.
This post was edited on 8/10 at 2:15 pm


The First Cut
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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I can see if the drug gives a competitive advantage, then the NCAA has to stop cheating. But, the tests for other drugs, that are not performance enhancing, but are illegal - what is the reason?


The NCAA tests for PEDs because of the unfair advantage - that's what the NCAA is setup to police. The NCAA doesn't test for weed or other intoxicating drugs because there is no advantage to those drugs and that's outside of the NCAA's scope.
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LSUStar
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
News flash. We live in a police state.


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tigbit
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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Follow their rules or GTFO


same as because they say so....still no justification for their rule other than we are the NCAA, you want to play, then do what we say.



The First Cut
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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same as because they say so....still no justification for their rule other than we are the NCAA, you want to play, then do what we say


The justification is that players gain an unfair advantage by using PEDs. How hard is this to comprehend?


tigbit
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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NCAA only test for PEDs. The universities test for other drugs to ensure youre acting right.

that was my understanding anyway.


I think this is correct until a team enters a championship, then the NCAA test for everything.


beauxroux
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
Some might say there is a safety issue involved. Pretty sure it's scientifically accepted that drunk/high people have slower reaction times and their inhibitions are lowered making them dangerous risk takers and more likely to get injured.


lsu2006
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re: What is the justification for drug testing football players for non-performance enhancing.
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So, do they then not test for these substances in states where they are legal? Yes, they do. So, the fact that they are illegal can not be the driving force. I am looking for their legal justification, not just "because the NCAA says so"

It's a schedule 1 substance under Federal Law. I'm as big of a proponent for full legalization as there is, but that's where we are now.


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