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re: What is the deal with the turf at the New Box?
Posted on 3/6/09 at 11:39 am to BgwinLSU
Posted on 3/6/09 at 11:39 am to BgwinLSU
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Not you again? Shouldn't you be looking up Bermuda Grass on Wikipedia or something so you can argue some more about how much you know.
where did this come from? I'm good dude
Posted on 3/6/09 at 12:13 pm to topnotchtiger
Your first post, capped with flipping birdies, possibly on the crew, connected and/or related in some way to LSU, LSU Turf, or a supplier?
In the context that it being late in the growing season, it was "too late" not "to late." And for being a grassman, you should know that it is "sprigging" not "spriging," as despite one management company's website using that term, I couldn't found it anywhere else online, nor in any online dictionary.
I don't know squat about turf, but I know George Toma does, and if he thinks LSU's main turf guy to be amiss, then I trust Toma.
And no matter how you or any other grass guy can explain and/or alibi things, as your post was very informative and convincing to me. Why is it that most every other SEC school, some in tougher climates, rarely seem to have the same consistent struggles with their fields of play to the degrees that LSU has continually exhibited from era to era, across a myriad of sporting fields?
Is not being in a humid climate, with fertile delta soil, an aid or detriment?
In the context that it being late in the growing season, it was "too late" not "to late." And for being a grassman, you should know that it is "sprigging" not "spriging," as despite one management company's website using that term, I couldn't found it anywhere else online, nor in any online dictionary.
I don't know squat about turf, but I know George Toma does, and if he thinks LSU's main turf guy to be amiss, then I trust Toma.
And no matter how you or any other grass guy can explain and/or alibi things, as your post was very informative and convincing to me. Why is it that most every other SEC school, some in tougher climates, rarely seem to have the same consistent struggles with their fields of play to the degrees that LSU has continually exhibited from era to era, across a myriad of sporting fields?
Is not being in a humid climate, with fertile delta soil, an aid or detriment?
This post was edited on 3/6/09 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 3/6/09 at 12:30 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
The turf at the Old Box wasn't any better.
Posted on 3/6/09 at 12:49 pm to Cajunboy19
the old box had too many problems underneath also, which isn't suppose to be the case with the new
the valves for the old box were breaking too often and the sprinkler coverage was not good enough
all the sod around the left field play ground and the gates are from the old box fwiw
game tonight, can't wait
the valves for the old box were breaking too often and the sprinkler coverage was not good enough
all the sod around the left field play ground and the gates are from the old box fwiw
game tonight, can't wait
Posted on 3/6/09 at 3:42 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Seiously, who really gives a crap about spelling when you are writing as fast as you can think. This aint being posted in the NY times. And for the flipping birds, just having fun.
Do you feel like our fields look like crap in person, or on tv, or both.
Do you feel like our fields look like crap in person, or on tv, or both.
Posted on 3/6/09 at 6:35 pm to topnotchtiger
I don't think the fields look like crap. But, for a school of LSU's economics, national stature, and visibility, it would be nice if Tigerstadium's turf more resembled Scott Field, Sanford Stadium ,etc.. and the Box's turf more resembled MSU, Miss, USCe,etc..
Look like crap? Nah! Just less than ideal. And definitely below-par for a school blessed with LSU's assets and circumstances.
There is no excuse for the endzones being lemon-lime colored instead of a sharp and consistent canary yellow, in person or on tv..now that is humiliating to see bobbled often. It looks like amateur hour when after a TD or while warming up, that LSU helmets and the turf aren't even close sometimes in shade.
Look like crap? Nah! Just less than ideal. And definitely below-par for a school blessed with LSU's assets and circumstances.
There is no excuse for the endzones being lemon-lime colored instead of a sharp and consistent canary yellow, in person or on tv..now that is humiliating to see bobbled often. It looks like amateur hour when after a TD or while warming up, that LSU helmets and the turf aren't even close sometimes in shade.
This post was edited on 3/6/09 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 3/6/09 at 6:53 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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There is no excuse for the endzones being lemon-lime colored instead of a sharp and consistent canary yellow
well u have to remember that it is prob hard to stay consistent with the spraying of the paint, and since the gold is lighter than the purple it would take more paint to cover the grass, which u cant really coat the paint to thick or the grass would die.
Posted on 3/6/09 at 7:01 pm to tigerhunter18
I've heard that before. But, Key Lime Pie isn't a school color. Maybe we need to put that extra amount and risk it, or no other color in it except for the purple colored LSU?
This post was edited on 3/6/09 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 3/6/09 at 7:43 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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no other color in it except for the purple colored LSU?
would love to see that happen, but never will, because of the "tradition" of painting the endzones
Posted on 3/7/09 at 9:55 am to tigerhunter18
Eric Fasbender was hired by LSU in January of 2009 to oversee the athletic fields. He comes from the University of Oregon. He was highly recommended, and his Football Field won the top award in 2007.
Most of what you see with the Baseball Field was done before his arrival. Let's give the new man a chance. He certainly has the credentials.
LINK
Most of what you see with the Baseball Field was done before his arrival. Let's give the new man a chance. He certainly has the credentials.
LINK
Posted on 3/9/09 at 6:59 am to BBATiger
topnotch::: fyi It was decided more than a year and a half ago that they were going with bullseye bermuda so don't you sit here and try to cover that shite up i myself tried talking him out of putting it on the field....
Posted on 3/9/09 at 9:33 am to tigerturf55
turf55,
why was the decision maded to go with bullseye? because it was what was avilavble at the time of plant. Was it picked in advance? Yes, but with the timeline being taken into consideration im sure. But, trying to cover something up, no way. I could give a crap if the field looks like a damn cow pasture. Grass is for the fans, dirt is for the players.
Now, as far as choosing to go with bullseye over celebration, it has to be due to timeline issues, not because of liking bullseye, or wanting to give it a try on baseball.
At the old box when the infield was lost to disease, they went back with celebration.
When the department redid the field at the old tiger park, what did they go with, celebration.
And when the timeline was able to permit the grow in of the field at the new tiger park, what did they plant, celebration.
when the department ripped out the best looking soccer field in the SEC to redo it, what did they go with, CELEBRATION.
So the only reason that they went with bullseye in the new box has to be due to timeline issues.
As far as the stadium goes, i got know clue why they chose bulleye.
why was the decision maded to go with bullseye? because it was what was avilavble at the time of plant. Was it picked in advance? Yes, but with the timeline being taken into consideration im sure. But, trying to cover something up, no way. I could give a crap if the field looks like a damn cow pasture. Grass is for the fans, dirt is for the players.
Now, as far as choosing to go with bullseye over celebration, it has to be due to timeline issues, not because of liking bullseye, or wanting to give it a try on baseball.
At the old box when the infield was lost to disease, they went back with celebration.
When the department redid the field at the old tiger park, what did they go with, celebration.
And when the timeline was able to permit the grow in of the field at the new tiger park, what did they plant, celebration.
when the department ripped out the best looking soccer field in the SEC to redo it, what did they go with, CELEBRATION.
So the only reason that they went with bullseye in the new box has to be due to timeline issues.
As far as the stadium goes, i got know clue why they chose bulleye.
Posted on 3/9/09 at 10:57 am to Jeff
i agree celebration would have been a much wiser and better decision but I dont understand why u are saying with timeline??? Obviously someone does not understand that bullseye is one of the slowest to cover....
Posted on 3/9/09 at 11:47 am to tigerturf55
By timeline im saying that those charged with the responsibilty of choosing the grass may have taken into consideration the "timeline" for construction, and that the contractors most certainly were going to be behind schedule for the plant date of Sep 1. Since the dept. wanted washed sod and you couldnt get celebration that way, then i guess bullseye was the choice they made. You just simply did not have time to grow it in.
I went to my first game on friday. I would agree that the field looked like crap. A lot of dormant bermuda still showing through. But as i have been told they were not even able to overseed the field until the begining of January, and probably went with lite rate to reduce competition for the grass when it comes out of dormancy.
behind the plate= crap, but i was told that it gets NO direct sunlight
infront of the plate= crap, because of BP
I went to my first game on friday. I would agree that the field looked like crap. A lot of dormant bermuda still showing through. But as i have been told they were not even able to overseed the field until the begining of January, and probably went with lite rate to reduce competition for the grass when it comes out of dormancy.
behind the plate= crap, but i was told that it gets NO direct sunlight
infront of the plate= crap, because of BP
Posted on 3/10/09 at 9:57 am to topnotchtiger
ok i understand where u are coming from on timeline but there are plenty of grasses that i would have chosen over bullseye.... Also i have learned through experience that if you do not verticut the bullseye before overseeding u will not have a good stand of rye bullseye "ms choice" is to thick and thatchy... but my only complaint is this... he can't grow it in tiger stadium so why doom a brand new 40 million dollar facility with a grass he knows nothing about..... but i guess we will see if the guy from oregon can manage bermuda grass instead of kb and fescue.....
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:06 am to Catman88
LSU has a lot lot lot lot of strengths. Our AD is usually pretty great (exceptions: seating arrangements, student privledges) But for the life of them they can't manage the fricking grass anywhere. As far as faults go, I'm glad one of their few is groundskeeping ability.
Posted on 3/10/09 at 1:19 pm to tigerturf55
I agree with everything you said. We shall see with this new guy. Yeah, he is a certified guy and yeah he has won field of the year before, but he is now at LSU where I imagine he will be under more restraints then he ever was at Oregon. And Oregon has a synthetic football field anyway..... we shall see how he does.
I wish him the best of luck.
I wish him the best of luck.
Posted on 3/10/09 at 1:33 pm to StTiger
Speedy, of course Toma said during Katrina it was the worst grass he's ever seen. But Toma did assure that Todd has everything under control, meaning if the top guy in the field (Toma) gave his approval to the job Todd was doing than Todd must be expectational.
Do. You. Understand?
Do. You. Understand?
Posted on 3/10/09 at 1:37 pm to Akit1
I pretty much agree with what you said here. The guy recieved an award named after Toma for his efforts post-katrina, and for being in charge of a facility that was able to host NFL and college teams in the same weekend.
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