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re: what is moffit doing
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:20 pm to Keys Open Doors
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:20 pm to Keys Open Doors
curtis taylor got too big
ali highsmith lost explosiveness
darry beckwith too, although injuries bothered him
ali highsmith lost explosiveness
darry beckwith too, although injuries bothered him
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Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:20 pm to lsucoonass
Bench press is beneficial when combined wih lower body explosion......if your arse doesn't get you there, then the chest never has a chance. Thus, it is supplementary to, say, cleans and squats. It does have benefit however. Testing for stength in cleans and squats would be MUCH riskier b/c they involve the back.
I ask myself this question: Last August I repped out 225 for 34 reps (fat and lazy now)....does that mean I could've beat Big Herm one on one? uhhh, no fricking way.....he'd kill me. BP reps "70% busted".
I ask myself this question: Last August I repped out 225 for 34 reps (fat and lazy now)....does that mean I could've beat Big Herm one on one? uhhh, no fricking way.....he'd kill me. BP reps "70% busted".
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:20 pm to Keys Open Doors
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But who else has been bogged down by the staff?
JV
Skyler
Dorsey had a horrible workout
hell, most of our DL are entirely too big
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On the other hand, Clayton, Devery Henderson, Landry, Bowe, Craig Davis, Addai, and D Byrd all showed their speed at the combine.
Clayton: 4.71
Bowe: 4.6
just to make that clear
who was the last stud player we had in workouts? we had laron, who i'm weary to use as an example. other than that we've had some issues. and our guys have not lifted well and a handful were called out for being weak as rookies
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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steven peterman bradie james glenn dorsey marcus spears chad lavalais trev faulk and these are guys who came in and essentially had to redshirt in the NFL b/c they were too weak (or in dorsey's case, he just didn't play very well and is seen as a bust as of now)
Dorsey got 50 tackles as a rookie DT. Weak my arse.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:21 pm to xLxSxUxFxAxNx
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compared to when?
when he was coming out of high school he looked like a legit 4.45 guy at worst
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:21 pm to Bucky Goldstein
I hate this thread. Its idiotic.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:22 pm to L S Usetheforce
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This guy believes in the #s..
yes i hate being like the NFL
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Guys like him truely feel this is what determines if a guy can play football.
nope, but it determines your athleticism and preparedness for the NFL
that's what's being discussed
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Basically you can have your combine freaks and I'll watch game film.
enjoy mike haas and jason white
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I'm not complaining about having a faster team. You are complaining about having a team that's won two National Championships. So you are the one who needs to explain what is wrong with that.
what is wrong with having a faster team ?
So, what is wrong with having a team that's won two national championships in the last 6 years?
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:23 pm to LSU3
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NO on complained about Chad L. strenght or explosiveness while he was at LSU.
but he lifted like a Safety at the combine
we have a history of our guys lifting well below what their positions generally ask for
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and Glenn was injured before the season as well though he did come back and play he played on the cheifs no one could have succeeded on that def.
but he also had a horrible workout
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:23 pm to DBG
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curtis taylor got too big ali highsmith lost explosiveness darry beckwith too, although injuries bothered him
i bet i can find a few players that get too big on every team.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
and for the record, i think moffit is a fine S&C coach and one of the best in the country
but wtf am i supposed to do with comments like, "tommy moffit is the most valuable coach in college football"
jeez louise
but wtf am i supposed to do with comments like, "tommy moffit is the most valuable coach in college football"
jeez louise
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Dorsey had a horrible workout
he also went a specialist to prepare for the combine. not moffit.
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Skyler
don't even try and say his injury had nothing to do with it.
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JV
victom of his own demons.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:24 pm to King Joey
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You are complaining about having a team that's won two National Championships.
to be fair, one of those came after a 2-loss season
those 2 losses? in OT, when moffit's regime is supposed to really show
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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who was the last stud player we had in workouts? we had laron, who i'm weary to use as an example. other than that we've had some issues. and our guys have not lifted well and a handful were called out for being weak as rookies
Guys who ran faster than expected:
Landry
Gay
Hester
Buster Davis
Jamarcus Russell
Chevis Jackson
That's just thinking for 10 seconds off the top of my head. EVERY team in college football has more players that disappoint in their 40 times than guys that surprise. Just like a player is more likely to disappoint with their height and weight.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:24 pm to King Joey
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yes i hate being like the NFL
Yeah, the best teams in the NFL love the numbers........Please
Go read Patriot Reigns by Holley and you'll come to realize that Bill B. rarely weights combine numbers when evaluating his picks.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:25 pm to JohnLSU
I think we've established:
1) Moffitt does a good job helping LSU win games
2) Moffitt does not develop Combine workout wonders
3) SFP knows way more about past combine stats than he should
4) LSU fans sure get pissy when someone questions their own
5) This discussion will never be settled, it will just eventually die.
1) Moffitt does a good job helping LSU win games
2) Moffitt does not develop Combine workout wonders
3) SFP knows way more about past combine stats than he should
4) LSU fans sure get pissy when someone questions their own
5) This discussion will never be settled, it will just eventually die.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:25 pm to xLxSxUxFxAxNx
quote:Doesnt make excuses.
don't even try and say his injury had nothing to do with it.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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jai eugene, for example, looks like he's gotten WAY big and a lot less explosive
How "explosive" was he really though? Do we know that if he runs a 4.5 40 at the combine, Moffit has failed him? Hard to say.
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:25 pm to BBATiger
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4) LSU fans sure get pissy when someone questions their own
well this is definitely true
Posted on 2/23/09 at 4:26 pm to Tigercat
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Jamarcus Russell
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Chevis Jackson
what?
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