re: What if JJ suddenly starts playing well?

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by promoting Malvetto.... don't you remember '08??

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and that killed sabans defense? 4 years after he left? or did it "kill" Bo's defense, which Miles also helped create?

look no one was happy about Malevetto. Miles fricked up and he knew it and he fixed it. is there some magic coach you know about who never makes a mistake?

do you people not understand how fricking hard it is to win in the SEC? do you understand we could easily be Tennessee or Georgia right now? or Scar or Arkansas, a constant second tier team that never breaks through. people have been predicting our demise for 6 years now. instead we're top 10, hell were even number 1 in one of the BCS computer polls.

im not giving Miles a pass for the QB thing at all, in any way, ive been typing profanity in all caps nonstop for 55 hours, but people on here need to be fair with the man and not just say any dumb shite that pops into their head because they feel like whining. Miles has done a lot for LSU, he deserves some god damn respect.

If JJ starts playing well, it will be because UAB put up nearly 400 yards on this weeks opposing defense. He'll campaign off his performance against the worst defense we've played, and then we get 25 total yards versus Florida the next week and end up finishing the season with 4 losses.

The most yds in a game JJ has ever thrown for at LSU was 250. The only way he comes close to this would be lots of YAC yds from TT, RR or RS. I don't see him suddenly getting better and CLM won't let him throw downfield. Wait til JJ faces Florida and Bama D...u wanna see regression??? U will see it then.

if JJ starts playing well and our offense starts to play well, the negativity will virtually stop. what you will see will be humerous comments about miles being "goofy" or something like that.

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I agree that chances of JJ turning this around are extremely slim, but the chances of him being supported (if he does) are even slimmer for many in this fan base.

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Look dude, I don't mean to rile you up, but this has got to be one of the stupidest things anyone as said regarding JJ.
People don't hate him. Hell they were dying for him the end of 2008 and thought he was the savior after the Peach Bowl.
What they hate is his performance and the fact that the coach refuses to try anyone else. If he played any other position and was playing this poorly, they would have benched him.
If he comes out and throws for 220 and 2 tds with no ints against Florida, people will NOT be upset. Win or lose, people would not be upset. They just want to see a QB that's not ranked about 100 in the nation.
But to get on here and berate and throw disparaging comments at the fans because they happen to be complaining about the QB performance of a JUNIOR who is one of the statistically worst QBs in major college football right now, and they want to try the backup is just assinine. It's stupid and it makes no sense. THIS IS WHAT ALL FOOTBALL FANS WOULD DO. Give Brantley JJ's numbers and see what UF fans would be saying.

Would you sit here and defend Maineri and his Friday night starter if he was 1-6 with a 7.00 ERA but for some reason PM kept sticking his arse on the hill every Friday night? No. The fans happen to be right on this. Will JL be better? WHO KNOWS. But anyone with a brain can see he can't be worse.

And I understand the argument, well we are still winning, but the reality is that we don't base our season on winning against Vandy and Miss State. We base it on the big 4-5 of the SEC and if you think 180 yards of total offense will beat UF or Bama regardless of how good our D is, I have some ocean front property in Arizona I want to sell you.

Let's stop calling each other names and getting mad at the fans for being perceptive.
Do I boo our team? No. I don't. But I am not going to berate others for doing it like I am some super fan with the "correct" "real Tiger" attitude.

Bottomline. Most LSU fans are bandwagonners anyway. If JJ plays better, they will jump on.

Just wanted to add. Will the criticism ever fully stop? Probably not. We do call them Rantards for a reason. But if he plays better, most of the criticism will stop. Maybe not all on this board, but this board is not Tiger Fandom mainstream. The rant is well, just that, a place for idiots to rant. So there will always be second guessing here. But I would rather it here and not on the radio and other places and I am pretty sure that if he starts playing better the amount of criticism will go down.

I don't ever take the thoughts and reaction of the rant and use it so say, all Tiger fans, or all of BR, or anything like that. The reality is that this is a dedicated hardcore few that are here, not the mainstream, bandwagon Tiger fans.

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extremetigerfanatic

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My thoughts exactly.

I know the point is lost by now and I should have rephrased the topic because that's about how deep most people on this board read, but the subject is not actually JJ.

The subject is Miles. And the fact that he's got most of this team in championship caliber again. Pretty much everything across the board except for one piece. And instead of acknowledging that, LSU rantard fanbase wants to fire the guy who's got us back into the top ten and is only missing ONE PLAYER.

Granted, that's the most important player on the field and there's no excuse for JJ to play this horrible. Crowton should be fired for it alone not to mention the horrible play calling. That's how we solved the Malveto fiasco. And it will solve this one too. But firing Miles after he's 21/22 of the way to a championship team is absurd.

Look how far we came after losing Perrilioux and Pellini. You can cry about those being Les' fault but the man's not God. He doesn't have control of everything everyone in this program does and neither does any coach anywhere. Including, close your eyes if you can't stand this thought.... Saban.

Yeah he sounds like a retard whenever you put a microphone in front of him. Yeah Ole Miss happened. But just look at this team! This is a hell of a team. And if, as some are saying the anger is because people see how special this team is, you need an attitude adjustment. This is what it is. We've got a sucky QB and one that is great for the other team riding pine behind him. Not exactly something he can fix because in both cases he'd just be polishing a turd. And that's why I asked the question, what if JJ suddenly started playing well, because I thought that might illustrate my point that Miles has created a championship level team other than that one position. My bad expecting rantards to be capable of connecting the dots.

I can see serious problems on the horizon if Lee does not get some serious playing time this weekend. I do not know if he will be the answer because he has not had any meaningful snaps this season. If JJ has a great game this weekend against a team that gave up TONS of yardage through the air to UAB then Miles will feel justified in his decision to keep him in BUT what will happen if we get down by 10-14 against Auburn and JJ is say 3 of 14 for 26 yards and 2 picks??? How can you effectively judge Lee when he comes off the bench into this situation and cannot pull the game out of the crapper?? If he does though.....

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Will the criticism ever fully stop? Probably not

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Ok, you start by saying my statement is the stupidest ever regarding JJ, and then you conclude with this (see above).

That is is EXACTLY my point. You could have just agreed with me from the beginning and saved your time.

And as for your other final points about "all" the fanbase not being anti-JJ, I never said they were.

I said that "some" would always be, which is exactly what you have admitted to (once again, see above).

I won't say that your rebuttle is the stupidest I've ever seen, but you deserve an honorable mention.