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re: What exactly do you ppl expect Crowton to do with JJ at QB
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:15 pm to RobbBobb
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:15 pm to RobbBobb
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The int correction comes with repetitions and maturity
So Jarrett Lee's problem is all repetitions and maturity, but a 19 year old quarterback looking nervous in the pocket against arguably one of the best defenses of the decade isn't? Right now Jordan Jefferson looks a hell of a lot more fixable than Jarrett Lee. It seems like all of a sudden everyone is forgetting that Lee was still throwing picks in the spring scrimmages and didn't show any improvement in that area.
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:26 pm to olomgamer231
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Right now Jordan Jefferson looks a hell of a lot more fixable than Jarrett Lee.
Not this year he wont. Found this while looking up QBs with poor pocket prsence
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Cassel acknowledged that pocket presence is something he's working on, but said it has to be done at game speed. A full-speed rush is difficult to duplicate in practice, so Cassel, who hadn't been a starter since high school, is honing his pocket presence through on-the-job training.
That's less than ideal, but Dilfer thinks Cassel will improve as he gains experience.
"It's going to take thousands of reps in practice and in games," said Dilfer. "Is it realistic to think he's going to have great pocket awareness by the end of the season? No."
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:32 pm to TIsuGGER
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Cassel
You obviously don't know who Matt Cassel is because that's a pretty bad example if you're trying to bash Jefferson.
I guess because Trent Dilfer says so on an article you found on a random google search, it makes it true, right?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:32 pm to TIsuGGER
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"Is it realistic to think he's going to have great pocket awareness by the end of the season? No."
Wonder why the coaches dont see this?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:33 pm to Goose
The listing is accurate. However, Crowton is the offensive coordinator, and therefore he must shoulder much of the blame.
The solution is unclear because if it were, it would already be working. At a bare minimum, it seems Jefferson needs to be disciplined for his poor performances. Trying someone at least part of the time is the best way. Forget about Jordan's psyche; Matt Flynn had to sit on the bench for four long years. Jordan will get over it.
If someone else is used, it probably should be someone with scrambling ability considering how the offensive line has been underperforming.
The solution is unclear because if it were, it would already be working. At a bare minimum, it seems Jefferson needs to be disciplined for his poor performances. Trying someone at least part of the time is the best way. Forget about Jordan's psyche; Matt Flynn had to sit on the bench for four long years. Jordan will get over it.
If someone else is used, it probably should be someone with scrambling ability considering how the offensive line has been underperforming.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:36 pm to olomgamer231
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everyone is forgetting that Lee was still throwing picks in the spring scrimmages and didn't show any improvement in that area
This is true. Lee looked unsure of himself in the Spring Game. He had happy feet in a "No Contact Jersey", so Lee may not be the answer. Still had tunnel vision on receivers as well.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:45 pm to olomgamer231
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You obviously don't know who Matt Cassel is because that's a pretty bad example if you're trying to bash Jefferson.
And you think JJ will ever start at QB in the pros?
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I guess because Trent Dilfer says so on an article you found on a random google search, it makes it true, right?
He's a former starting pro bowl QB, and a Super Bowl winner, and is a paid analyst for the NFL Network, but you know better because you bought Madden NFL 10 last night.Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:00 pm to TIsuGGER
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And you think JJ will ever start at QB in the pros?
Actually I have no clue what a 19 year old is going to turn out to be, and neither do you so quit acting like you do.
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He's a former starting pro bowl QB, and a Super Bowl winner, and is a paid analyst for the NFL Network, but you know better because you bought Madden NFL 10 last night.
You're obviously completely uneducated on Matt Cassel so I'll spell it out. He was the guy that stepped up his first year and had all of the "paid analysts" talking about trading Tom Brady away to make room for him as the next Patriots starting QB. Trent Dilfer couldn't have been further off on his prediction of Matt Cassel and that's why he's a shitty example. I don't care how great of an analyst someone is or what their qualifications are, they're never going to be right 100% of the time.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:03 pm to RobbBobb
The answer is so simple. JJ and JL have their defiencies and their strengths; as do the rest of our offense. But we are not playing to them. Why keep doing the same thing if it's not working?
Why not set a few wide with JL under center?
Why not run a few deceptive QB draws with jefferson?
And where in the world is shepard?
If they run that option one more time...
Why not set a few wide with JL under center?
Why not run a few deceptive QB draws with jefferson?
And where in the world is shepard?
If they run that option one more time...
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:07 pm to natethegreat
LSU needs to hire a QB coach and let Crowton just run offense. 2 years in a row the QB has not improved and looked scared back in pocket.
Maybe Lee and Jefferson are not as good as LSU fans wanted to believe the past few years? What if they are both better backup's than starters?
Jefferson is getting into stretch with defensive coordinators who can exploit his youth and inexperience. They can bring blitz from various areas on field and they will force him to make quick decisions. I do think either Lee or Jefferson can be successful but they still need alot of coaching
Maybe Lee and Jefferson are not as good as LSU fans wanted to believe the past few years? What if they are both better backup's than starters?
Jefferson is getting into stretch with defensive coordinators who can exploit his youth and inexperience. They can bring blitz from various areas on field and they will force him to make quick decisions. I do think either Lee or Jefferson can be successful but they still need alot of coaching
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:08 pm to RobbBobb
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RobbBobb
Really good post.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:09 pm to geauxldeneye
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I made the same comment earlier in the year, but 2 things have changed since. They have gotten better and I can see much more clearly how JJ's play makes them appear worse than they are.
He holds on to the ball way too long many times.
His penchant for retreating too far back from the line of scrimmage and even further back when there's pressure, instead of stepping up into the pocket, makes the defensive rushers job even easier and the O-Line's job that much harder.
I was watching an NFL analyst dissect the problems with J Russells play with the Oakland Raiders. He diagramed this very effectivly (Russell has the same tendency). It gives the rushers a straight line to the QB; instead of having to curl around the O-linemen the rushers just have to run past them, and the O-linemen have to run backwards vs faster forward rushing D-linemen.
Also it makes it harder for the O-line to keep track of their QB, and it's hard to protect your QB if you don't know where he's at.
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