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re: What do LSU fans generally think of Mark Richt as a coach?
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:18 am to DrEdgeLSU
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:18 am to DrEdgeLSU
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Richt lost two games against SEC East opponents. LSU was 4-1 against its own division. It's not about "outside results," it's about winning your division games. If UGA beats Tennessee and loses to Auburn instead, they are in the champ game. But, UGA lost two division games and were effectively eliminated from most any tiebreaker scenarios imaginable. So look at it this way, Miles was 4-0 non conf, 4-1 division and 2-1 SEC East. Richt was 4-0 non conf, 3-2 division and 3-0 SEC West. It doesn't matter that they tied -- it matters that they lost the tiebreaker.
I understand how the tiebreakers work and am not arguing with LSU in the SECC/MNC. My point is simply that 10-2 (6-2) are pretty much comparable seasons, right? (Especially when one considers that the SECE has been significantly tougher than the SECW this decade... see my post just above this showing LSU/UGA records against SECE/SECW).
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Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:18 am to FrodgieBoolatz
I actually think, he's the one coach in the SEC who would make a good NFL coach.
However, I think there are at least four better college coaches in the conference than him.
However, I think there are at least four better college coaches in the conference than him.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:19 am to tubucoco
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one question, how can anybody that plays in the SEC have avg players? that sounds like an excuse.
I meant "average" compared to the rest of his SEC opponents, fwiw.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:20 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I actually think, he's the one coach in the SEC who would make a good NFL coach.
However, I think there are at least four better college coaches in the conference than him.
i think his problems with motivating definitely apply in the 2nd sentence, and i guess would appy in the first
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:20 am to D Dawg
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Sort of like at Kentucky and Arkansas at home which was the last game of the regular season for LSU.
ha ha ha and we still won the national championship....its gotta burn you up
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:20 am to Y.A. Tittle
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However, I think there are at least four better college coaches in the conference than him.
Fair enough. Which ones, and why?
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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he has won the SEC twice
On a national stage with national implications. Winning the SEC in 2005 was irrelevant on the national stage. Winning in 2002 wasn't either.
Either way, he is a good coach but they haven't gotten it done when it mattered.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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UGA was fricking blown out. they have no argument
if there are a bunch of other 1-loss teams and LSU has 1 loss, we have no argument this year
EXACTLY.
UGA wasn't competitive in all of their losses last year, they have no case. Ditto for us this year if the situation arises.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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and i guess would appy in the first
Not as much. Plus, I think it's a different sort of motivating style that is needed in the NFL (see, e.g., Spurrier and Saban) and for some reason, I think Richt might actually have that.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:22 am to rutiger
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ha ha ha and we still won the national championship
Yes, LSU did. Congrats. You also just missed the point.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:23 am to FrodgieBoolatz
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Fair enough. Which ones, and why?
saban - no need to get into this
miles - has already won a national title
meyer - has already won a national title
tubby - does about the same with a lot less than richt
those would be my guesses
you can make an argument for miles v richt though. i think miles' ability to motivate and his recruiting gives him the edge
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:23 am to FrodgieBoolatz
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My point is simply that 10-2 (6-2) are pretty much comparable seasons, right?
Ok, what I said was I don't understand why you are using this as an argument. Yes, they are comparable season RESULTS. However, the games that made up those results are different. LSU, through that comparable result, was able to advance to a conference championship game, where it won, and then won in the biggest game in college football.
Richt hasn't won the right combination of games in 7+ years so he can prove further that UGA belongs in the list of elite college programs. Elite SEC program, absolutely. Elite national program? Not quite there yet. You have to win a national championship to be in that discussion, and so far, that has not happened.
ETA: Note that this does not qualify one as a good coach alone, but it does determine if you have taken a program to the "next level."
This post was edited on 10/21/08 at 10:27 am
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:23 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Plus, I think it's a different sort of motivating style that is needed in the NFL
that's what i mean. i was agreeing with you
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:24 am to DrEdgeLSU
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You have to win a national championship to be in that discussion, and so far, that has not happened.
some of that is luck
2002: 1-loss
2003: may have been the 2nd best team, but had to play the best 2 times
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:25 am to el tigre
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EXACTLY.
UGA wasn't competitive in all of their losses last year, they have no case. Ditto for us this year if the situation arises.
Is anyone here arguing that Georgia should have been in the MNC game over LSU? Not sure how we even got to this point.
The point was simply that 10-2 (6-2) seasons are pretty comparable as far as grading coaches goes (especially when one considers Richt's team was not picked to do much at all last year).
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:26 am to FrodgieBoolatz
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What are some examples of this (that couldn't be given for other SEC coaches)?
didn't UGA get blown out by an unranked Tennessee team last year?
didn't yall also lose at home to an unranked South Carolina team only scoring 12 points?
This post was edited on 10/21/08 at 10:27 am
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:26 am to FrodgieBoolatz
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The point was simply that 10-2 (6-2) seasons are pretty comparable as far as grading coaches goes
they are
and richt owned miles in their last matchup
but LSU fans will make excuses if we lose this year. injuries and RP will be the 2 biggest
but it's nto like UGA has avoided injuries to important guys and hasn't had to discipline players
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:27 am to FrodgieBoolatz
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However, I think there are at least four better college coaches in the conference than him.
Fair enough. Which ones, and why?
Miles
Saban
Tubby
Spurrier
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:27 am to TigerBait1127
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didn't UGA get blown out by an unranked Tennessee team last year?
UTenn was a top 25 team last year
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:27 am to FrodgieBoolatz
the debates about Richt whining is how we got to this point.
not when national championships are attached.
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The point was simply that 10-2 (6-2) seasons are pretty comparable as far as grading coaches goes (especially when one considers Richt's team was not picked to do much at all last year).
not when national championships are attached.
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