re: What are the most inexcusable, needless losses in LSU FB history?

Don't have to think far back to recall Ole Miss '09 and Tennessee '05.

I just got here, so I am no way gonna read this entire thread.....without a doubt, three games stand out to me....

1. 1994 Auburn "interception" game....absolutely disgusting and gut wrenching....

2. 2000 UAB game....

3. 1986 Miami of Ohio.....

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Tennessee 05

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How is losing to an SEC team more "inexcusable" than the losing to a UAB?

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That's not what I said. A team coming off a 3-8 year, with a new coach playing their 3rd game is different from a team coming off a Sugar Bowl appearnce, with a defense mostly intact, that proven 1 WEEK EARLIER. They could beat a top 10 team.

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There's not that much difference when that team coming off the 3-8 season proves they can beat a top 10 team 1 WEEK LATER!

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Also saying a team has top 10 talent is pretty meaningless without context. Are we talking about a lot of freshman? Is all the top 10/ NFL talent playing? A lot of young players are better by week 10 than week 3.

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They were top 10 caliber talent the next week . . . when they beat a top 10 team. That's the context.

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ah again we see a need for friend context. For LSU, there is no excuse to go 2-9 or 3-8 really.

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Right. The Houston loss made us 2-8, and was (imo) the worst loss of that season; ergo, inexcusable. What's the confusion here?

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If you want to say its inexcusable to have a team at LSU bad enough to go 2-9, I'm with you, but when you have a team that goes 2-9, no loss is "inexcusable" in a sense.

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In what sense? How does losing 8 other games make an otherwise inexcusable loss somehow "excusable"? Given your obsession with beating top 10 teams earlier in the season, it sounds like you're saying it's excusable for a coach to lose to Colorado State IF he goes ahead and loses to all the good teams, too; but if he manages to beat Florida and Alabama and then loses to Colorado State, that would somehow be INexcusable coaching?

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Its basically expected, inexcusable means you were expecting them to win. By week 10 of the 99 season the team had mailed it in. If you went to a game expecting a win, well, shame on you.

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Even though the demolished Arkansas the next game? Or does the greatly improved performance under Hunter somehow create an excuse for DiNardo? Does the fact that DiNardo had already established an inexcusably bad level of coaching somehow then make the worst example of that level of coaching . . . excusable?

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Now let me explain something to you. Individual games are different than entire seasons.

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And? How does that change the fact that inexcusable performances are inexcusable? Entire seasons are made up of individual games; you cannot have an inexcusable season without individual inexcusable games within it. These were two of them.

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Losing at home on Sr day with a National Title on the Line is different than losing on the road to a top 10 team vying for the same BCS at large spot as you. Different games, different seasons, different expectations.

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Absolutely true, which is why I laughed at the other guy for suggesting the '06 Auburn game rather than the home game against a UAB team that was 3-4 in C-USA. One can reasonably understand a loss to a top 10 team that finishes 11-2; understanding how an LSU team that beats top 10 Tennessee the next week is somehow unable to beat a UAB team that can't even go .500 in C-USA is much, much harder.

Not even close. The loss to ten on a Monday night following hurricane Katrina. The state was reeling and needed a win worse than ever. We had a huge lead at half, jarmarcus mismanaged the final minutes of the first half and we go in like 24- 3? Second half typical conservative miles bullshite and we lose a gut wrenching game in front of a national audience. It was on the heels of a very impressive last second win at Arizona state, if I am not mistaken. The state needed a win and, in my opinion, miles micro managed and pissed a huge one away!

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The loss to ten on a Monday night following hurricane Katrina.

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Holy crap! Are you serious? A loss to an SEC team is somehow more inexcusable than a loss to UAB? And under those post-catastrophe conditions?

Hell, I guess you'd call Jack Lengyel's 1971 season "inexcusable", too.

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Growing pains. Saban took over a team that didn't believe in itself. They had forgotten how to win. They had to learn that all over again

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bullshite. i don't care if they had forgotten how to walk. You don't lose to a school thats had a football program all of 9 years and a losing conference record in CONFERENCE frickIN' USA on a Saturday night in Death Valley.

and if they had "forgotten how to win"....they sure seem to do pretty well against a decent UT team the next week.

That game and the '94 Auburn game were the worst....hands down.

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UAB... no reason for that. EVER.

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+1 more

Worst coaching job by Saban in his life!

Kept changing QB's but had more O-line and receiver problems than I can count.

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bullshite. i don't care if they had forgotten how to walk. You don't lose to a school thats had a football program all of 9 years and a losing conference record in CONFERENCE frickIN' USA on a Saturday night in Death Valley.

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You are entitled to your opinion.

I wasn't sweating it though. We were in our first year with a new coach and it was going to take time to get where we wanted to go. It's not like expectations were high. We didn't even start the season ranked. That's what happens we you go on an 8 game losing streak the year before and the administration feels we are better off without that coaching staff.

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and if they had "forgotten how to win"....they sure seem to do pretty well against a decent UT team the next week.

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I'm talking about being at a point where you expect to win week in and week out and I don't think they were at that point at that time. We only won 8 games that year. People were just excited to be bowl eligible again. When we only win 8 games now, people go nuts.