re: What an emotional moment if you bleed purple and gold

There was an article on ESPN.com in 2006, but that site is a jungle and I can't find it. I don't even know if it's still there.

And I don't know any frickING thing about South Carolina or that job. I never brought USC up. I don't give a shite about that job. I've never said Brady should have gotten it or that they were interested.

Once again...

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I'm not a Brady lover like the others you've mentioned. (tiger20, xiv or whatever, etc.) I'm just a level-headed person that doesn't blindly hate a man that took our team to the Final 4 because you think that's what your supposed to do. John Brady set a great foundation, but LSU basketball is better off now. (with Trent Johnson) We have a great coach that finally knows how to perfectly coach the talent Brady brought in.

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John Brady set a great foundation

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Have to disagree on this one. Brady nearly ran our program into the toilet. He alienated players, fans and alumni and his player attrition and graduation rates were abysmal. The PMAC is finally rocking again as the player development under TJ is far superior (even though it is not tough to improve upon nothing) than JB.

One poster said it best. The biggest endorsement for John Brady's (in)abilities was Arkansas State being the school to pick him up when he came on the market.

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Wrong. Brady built a Final Four team, also coached a Sweet 16 team and wn 2 SEC titles. His achievements were exceeded by only Florida and Kentucky, and Kentucky never went to the Final Four during his tenure.

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no not wrong. very, very, right.

the 2006-2007 year was one of the most disappointing years in lsu basketball history. lsu returned 3 starters and two other players that played over 10 minutes a game on a final four team the previous year. brady led that team to a 5-11 conference record, 17-15 overall record, an embarrassing 20 point loss to ole miss in the sec tournament, and no postseason appearance. as you say later in this post, i wonder how many programs can make this same claim?

the next season in 2007-2008, brady again managed to make the team even worse. he led them to a 1-6 start in the sec and an 8-13 record overall before finally getting fired. this included a loss to tulane for the first time in 20+ years, a 20 point thrashing by an 11-20 wichita state team, and a loss after blowing a 15 point lead with under 3:00 left against villanova.

this year, trent johnson has more than doubled brady's sec wins from the previous 2 years combined, as well as equal his total wins from that same time span with plenty of games to go. and all this while playing with the same team brady had last year, plus tasmin mitchell and minus an nba lottery pick.

brady did his best to ruin the lsu program, and trent johnson has resurrected it in less than a year.

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He recruited a third SEC champion in this year's team.

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this same team played for him last year and was the worst team in the sec. trent johnson is the reason this team is the sec champion. john brady had nothing to do with it.

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They have equalled what Brady and the program did on two other occasions in the previous eight years.

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no, they have surpassed. unlike the only 2 notable teams brady had at lsu, there is no first round pick on this year's team, much less a top 5 big man. they also have a better record up to this point than each of those teams, both in conference and overall.

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If enough people say this often enough some gullible people actually believe it.

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well they should, because its true.

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The rate of attrition under Brady was in the middle of the rates in college basketball today.

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that is bullshite. youve posted it numerous times, and its been refuted with actual facts. the last time you attempted to do it with florida, you overstated the number of florida players leaving and understated the number of lsu players leaving. you cannot make a valid point without having to lie about something in the process.

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How many players ever did any better at ther new schools?

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irrelevant to the topic at hand. attrition is about a player leaving a program, nothing more. but since you asked, kentrell gransberry led the big east in rebounding for each of the 2 years prior to this season. brady ran him off after refusing to play him in an exhibition game in which every other player on the team participated. i wonder if he wouldve been an asset to either of those teams? probably not, as we already know you think the sec is better than the big east in basketball.

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We have five seniors and two four year juniors this season. How many other programs can make this claim? That does not speak of attrition.

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because brady has not been at lsu to run any of them off since midway through last season.

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Brady's program had the SEC Academic athlete of the Year for all sports in Brandon

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so was lee humphrey. what does that prove?

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There have been three players who completed their eligibility in graduate school. I wonder how many other programs make this same claim?

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i wonder how many other programs had to schedule as many home games as they could this year because after year's of poor academic performance from the team they couldn't afford another one? i wonder how many other programs entered this season talking about they needed to "get their academics back in place"?

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While I believe it is ultimately the responsibility of the student athlete to graduate I believe this illustrates the emphasis place on graduation under Brady.

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trent johnson, who knows much more about that situation than either you or i, disagrees on both points.

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no not wrong. very, very, right.

the 2006-2007 year was one of the most disappointing years in lsu basketball history. lsu returned 3 starters and two other players that played over 10 minutes a game on a final four team the previous year. brady led that team to a 5-11 conference record, 17-15 overall record, an embarrassing 20 point loss to ole miss in the sec tournament, and no postseason appearance. as you say later in this post, i wonder how many programs can make this same claim?

the next season in 2007-2008, brady again managed to make the team even worse. he led them to a 1-6 start in the sec and an 8-13 record overall before finally getting fired. this included a loss to tulane for the first time in 20+ years, a 20 point thrashing by an 11-20 wichita state team, and a loss after blowing a 15 point lead with under 3:00 left against villanova.

this year, trent johnson has more than doubled brady's sec wins from the previous 2 years combined, as well as equal his total wins from that same time span with plenty of games to go. and all this while playing with the same team brady had last year, plus tasmin mitchell and minus an nba lottery pick.

brady did his best to ruin the lsu program, and trent johnson has resurrected it in less than a year.

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You did not refute anything I posted. You simply conveniently cherry picked negativity.

For instance you neglected to state they beat nationally ranked Tennessee in the first round of the SEC tournament in an overtime game against a full court pressing team which lasted past midnight. They then faced a rested Ole Miss team which had a first day bye and lost by 20 points. Most teams in tht scenario would have lost the second round game.

You failed to note that Johnson has a healthy team this year. The prior two years were affected by injuries to Magnum Rolle, Glen Davis, Tasmin Mitchell, Chris Johnson, Garret Temple and Quinton Thornton. Three of the injuries were serious senough to require surgery.

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no, they have surpassed. unlike the only 2 notable teams brady had at lsu, there is no first round pick on this year's team, much less a top 5 big man. they also have a better record up to this point than each of those teams, both in conference and overall.

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They have also played a considrably softer out of conference schedule. Brady's teams you referenced played Oklahoma State, Arizona, Ohio State, Arizona, Cincinnati and UCONN. The SEC was also tougher from top to bottom when Brady won the titles.

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that is bullshite. youve posted it numerous times, and its been refuted. the last time you attempted to do it with florida, you overstated the number of florida players and understated the number of lsu players. you cannot make a valid point without having to lie about something in the process.

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I have proven my case many times over so I will simply dismiss you this time.

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irrelevant to the topic at hand. attrition is about a player leaving a program, nothing more. but since you asked, kentrell gransberry led the big east in rebounding for each of the 2 years prior to this season. brady ran him off after refusing to play him in an exhibition game in which every other player on the team participated.

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So you can name one player and you choose the player who walks out on his team after one exhibiiton because he did not have teh guts to stay and compete. Maybe he didn't play because he had not earned the minutes. Perhaps he had an attitude problem or just had not shown well in practice.

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i wonder how many other programs had to schedule as many home games as they could this year because after year's of poor academic performance from the team they couldn't afford another one? i wonder how many other programs entered this season talking about they needed to "get their academics back in place"?

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Sounds like their academics slipped in the spring and summer semesters without Brady there to push them. Again, regardless of the circumstances it is up to the player to make the commitment to academics.

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trent johnson, who knows much more about that situation than either you or i, disagrees on both points.

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New coach has carte blanche to say what he wants and spin it however he wants to.

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You did not refute anything I posted. You simply conveniently cherry picked negativity.

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i refuted everything you posted. you said it was wrong that brady was driving lsu basketball into the ground. clearly that is not the case. you on the other hand refute nothing as always.

and there's no cherry picking about 5-11, 17-15 and 1-6, 8-13.

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For instance you neglected to state they beat nationally ranked Tennessee in the first round of the SEC tournament in an overtime game against a full court pressing team which lasted past midnight.

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wow, shame on me for not noting a team that returned 3 starters from a final 4 team from the previous year won its first round game of the sec tournament.

you better be throwing a parade this year when each unc, kansas, memphis, and ucla win a game in their conference tournament. even though at least 1 of those teams does not return nearly as much as lsu did.

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They then faced a rested Ole Miss team which had a first day bye and lost by 20 points. Most teams in tht scenario would have lost the second round game.

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most teams that return 3 starters and 2 significant bench players from a final 4 team wouldnt have been in that scenario in the first place, and they definitely would not have been embarrassed by 20 points.

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You failed to note that Johnson has a healthy team this year.

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no i didnt, because he hasnt. spencer, quintin thornton, and terry martin have both missed time, garrett temple and garrett green have injuries that will require surgery according to johnson himself, and according to your previous definitions of injury, chris johnson has not been 100% for a few games. you named 6 players for 2 years, i named 6 players for one.

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They have also played a considrably softer out of conference schedule. Brady's teams you referenced played Oklahoma State, Arizona, Ohio State, Arizona, Cincinnati and UCONN.The SEC was also tougher from top to bottom when Brady won the titles.

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lsu's OOC slate in 1999-2000 included: grambling, southeastern, oakland, wyoming, fresno st, alcorn state, tennesee martin, sam houston st, centenary, nicholls, howard, oklahoma st, and arizona

lsu's ooc slate in 2005-2006 included: southern, nicholls, west virginia, houston, mcneese, uno, ull, northern iowa, arkansas monticello, cincinatti, ohio st, tulane, uconn,

are you really trying those OOC schedules are considerably more difficuly than this year's, especially 1999-2000?

yes the ooc schedule is soft this year, because trent had to make sure all the academic frick ups brady left him were fixed. but in having played that softer schedule they never lost to clearly inferior teams such as tulane, wichita state twice, etc. i'll give you 1 guess who did.

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I have proven my case many times over so I will simply dismiss you this time.

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you have never proven your case and have actually been disproven everytime you attempt to.

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So you can name one player and you choose the player who walks out on his team after one exhibiiton because he did not have teh guts to stay and compete.

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he did not walk out on the team, brady ran him out.

he didnt get the chance to compete because brady refused to play him. him wanting to compete and not ride the bench for no reason in an exhibition game while everyone else on the team plays is what led to him leaving.

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Maybe he didn't play because he had not earned the minutes. Perhaps he had an attitude problem or just had not shown well in practice.

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or maybe brady just ran him off the team like he did with 25-30 other players during his tenure here, and im not even talking about the ones that left early for the nba.

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Sounds like their academics slipped in the spring and summer semesters without Brady there to push them.

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thats funny, i would think their academics would rise without brady yelling at them and throwing hissy fits and stomping his feet 24/7.

and considering apr performance is calculated over years, 2 semesters of possible poor academics is not going to do very much to effect it. i wouldnt expect someone as stupid as you to know any better though.

"The baseball and men’s basketball teams were the only sports cited for falling below the 925 mark for the four-year period dating back to the 2003-04 academic year."

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Again, regardless of the circumstances it is up to the player to make the commitment to academics.

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then why is it brady was in charge of 1 of only 2 sports at lsu that did not produce a satisfactory apr score? even the football team got one.

and why did you attept to credit brady for the academic success of brandon bass?

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New coach has carte blanche to say what he wants and spin it however he wants to.

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right, because everything trent johnson has done up to this point indicates he is a selfish, vengeful prick like brady who only takes credit in victory and blames the losses on everyone else.

and what is johnson spinning exactly? did lsusports.net just lie in the article and basketball really did not have an unsatisfactory score? i mean, we know that you believe usatoday and rivals have no credibility with the articles they write. can we add lsusports.net to that list to?

speaking of lists, theres plenty of great things to add from this thread to it. should be at 100 in no time.

and when are you going to answer about josh maravich and the manager and how they are testament's to brady's character?

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tiger20...I just got off the phone with JB and he is pissed that Misty was on the computer till almost 2:00 am typing away. Said she better get her act together, or there will be some attrition in his marriage. Heed that warning.

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Brady sucked.

Deep down, you know it.

Every one know it

His mother and his ex-wife/current wife know it.

All the ADs and Presidents at the major schools know it.

Admit it and move on.

He couldn't even win in the Sun Belt conference this year.

He also had a losing record in the SEC for his 10 plus years at LSU.

Never took Samford to the NCAA tournament.

If not for Joe Dean Jr relationship with him, he would still be at Samford.

Why keep defending him??? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

As much as the Bradytards annoy me, tigerstros annoys me even more. And that is saying something.

Sadly, his posts are under review for quality control purposes. I hope he is patient.