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re: We should claim the 2011 National Title

Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:13 am to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:13 am to
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f you want LSU to claim the one in 2011 then that means you must advocate us giving the 2007 one back because we didn't deserve to be there then right?


Why didn’t LSU deserve to be in in 2007? Unlike 2011 Alabama LSU won its conference. They weren’t the first team to “back in” or need help to win. If you exclude LSU because of 2 losses then your National Champ is either Hawaii or Kansas. If we eliminate teams that didn’t win their conference it’s doen to just Hawaii

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No it's not...it never has been. Also your point might carry some weight....BUT Oklahoma St didn't even play in a conf championship game in the Big 12 at the time.
. So? They still won the conference and frankly playing round robin is a better way to determine the champion.

It’s hilarious that you dismiss a conference title as something that wasn’t a standard but think quality of loss is.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 11:19 am
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
6503 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:13 am to
If we claim it, does that mean we fired a two time national championship winning coach in favor of “O”?




Good grief...
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10477 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:16 am to
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If we claim it, does that mean we fired a two time national championship winning coach in favor of “O”?
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:17 am to
A 2-10 Ole Miss team out scored and had more total yards vs Bama than LSU did in the national championship game. 2-10 team’s offense was better than a 13-1 team’s offense. Thanks Les.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61006 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:20 am to
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A 2-10 Ole Miss team out scored and had more total yards vs Bama than LSU did in the national championship game. 2-10 team’s offense was better than a 13-1 team’s offense. Thanks Les.


What kind of retarded logic is that
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216453 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:32 am to
Oh ok.. so with you saying this.... the Okie St. game would have been no gimmie win right?????
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
1047 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:33 am to
LSU won the first game due to some fluke field goal yips. Alabama was moving the ball up and down the field, but had an all time bad night kicking. LSU was not clearly a better team on that night, but there was definitely a better team on January 9th. I was as heartbroken as anyone, but the fact is that LSU's offense was once again the most embarrassing unit ever to grace a football field. Unfortunately the story will continue with the promotion of Ensminger and the guidance of Orgeron. It is so depressing knowing that offense has been the anchor for this program, and someone is stupid enough to believe that the answer is Ensminger/ Orgeron.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61006 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:34 am to
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Not USC even through they self claimed the National Championship.


They didn’t self claim anything. The AP polled named them National Champs just like the AP has done since 1936, they never agreed to name the winner of 1 game the NC and the NCAA recognizes it. There are several split titles in CFB history it’s no big deal
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61006 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:52 am to
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Oh ok.. so with you saying this.... the Okie St. game would have been no gimmie win right?????


Not sure what this means? I’ve stated many times I think only teams that win conferences should play for the NC. However from a purely objective standard OSU had a better schedule and before anyone says the SEC is tougher Bama didn’t play UGA or USCe. The only ranked SEC team they beat during the regular season was Arkansas
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61006 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:54 am to
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Alabama was moving the ball up and down the field


They had 295 total yards by contrast LSU had 239
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:57 am to
Your are saying Okie St. should have gone instead of Bama because the deserved it more correct????? Ok then are you with most on here thinking that Okie St. would have been an easy win?????
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70010 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:58 am to
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Miles did nothing but stand on the sidelines in fear with his arms folded staring into space.




he couldn't eat the grass
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61006 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:06 pm to
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Your are saying Okie St. should have gone instead of Bama because the deserved it more correct?????


Yes because I think only teams that win their conference should get to play for the NC.

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Ok then are you with most on here thinking that Okie St. would have been an easy win?????


That’s irrelevant to the point. To be clear I do not think OSU was more deserving because LSU lost to Bama. I had the same opinion in 2001 with Nebraska
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26023 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:14 pm to
Alabama beat us, so no.

I do have a real problem with any team that cannot win the conference getting a second go at an NC.

Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10477 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:21 pm to
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2-10 team’s offense was better than a 13-1 team’s offense.
You mean the one LSU skulldrug 52-3 in their own house?

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ctiger69
Delivers
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:23 pm to
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LSU won the first game due to some fluke field goal yips.


Bama missed 3 field goals that night and one was blocked. But 2 of the 3 missed attempts were from 50 and 52 yards. Their third miss was from 44 yards.

None of those field goal attempts were chip shots. Especially for the kickers bama had at the time.
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
1047 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:23 pm to
Which further proves that LSU was not a dominant team on that night. They were pretty equivalent on that night, but not so much on January 9th when they actually made the field goals.
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
1047 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:35 pm to
It is actually pretty embarrassing that this conversation is being had. Both teams had time to prepare/ game plan, and an arse whipping ensued. If anyone watched that game and couldn't see who the better team was, then I don't know what to say. Non-biased people wanted to see that game again, because they just weren't sure who was better after the first game. They got there answer the second go around.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61006 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:40 pm to
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Which further proves that LSU was not a dominant team on that night.


Who cares if we were dominant? We won. Many a team has lost a game where they outplayed an opponent. If someone dares point that out a Les Miles team outplayed someone and lost due to players not executing he is ripped for being a “Miles lover”

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Non-biased people wanted to see that game again

Now this is plainly false. There are many people that made the same argument LSU fans made/are making
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22933 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:42 pm to
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on January 9th when they actually made the field goals.
Field goals? Alabama? Where did these fgs happen in a 21-0 score?
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