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re: We got a Break on the Interference Call

Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:17 pm to
people should stop arguing. Read this rule, and if you think the right call was made, i dont know what to say:

quote:

A.R. 4—If a fielder has a chance to field a batted ball, but misplays it and must chase after the ball, the fielder must avoid the runner. If contact occurs, obstruction shall be called.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6109 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

furthermore, one could argue he wasn't in the act of chasing after the ball or reaching for the ball so these rules may not apply here.


Then he ceases to be in the act of fielding and the ruling would be obstruction. Runner advances.

I for one think the umpire made a judgement call (that I happen to agree with). The runners improper path of running impeded the act of fielding by Jacoby.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
13594 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:18 pm to
The ball hit his glove and went straight down and hit his foot. The ball wasn't going into right field.
This post was edited on 3/11/11 at 11:20 pm
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4295 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:19 pm to
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The runners improper path of running impeded the act of fielding by Jacoby.
Where did you want him to run?? Jones is running at full speed and he's headed full speed towards the base. It's not like Jones was a stationary target that he could run around.
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4295 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

A.R. 4—If a fielder has a chance to field a batted ball, but misplays it and must chase after the ball, the fielder must avoid the runner. If contact occurs, obstruction shall be called.
THIS is exactly what happened. LSU got a break. They got jobbed earlier in the game. It happens.
Posted by Kal_Varnsen
Member since Jan 2005
640 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:20 pm to
I'm not saying the ump is an idiot. I know it's a bang bang play and must be extremely difficult to call in real time. I'm just saying the original poster is right by saying we got a break because the rule based on the replay says it should have been called the other way.
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4295 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:21 pm to
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The ball hit his glove and went straight down and hit his foot. The ball wasn't going into right field.
Either way, he misplayed it and therefore AR 4 comes into play. Obstruction and runner gets the base.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28355 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:22 pm to
Like I said, it depends on what the umpire interpreted. If he reads the Rant, Jones is nearing Superhero status and can defy physics, so obviously the ball is always within reach.

I just don't think it was a blatant miss.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
13594 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:22 pm to
I actually think an good argument can be made either way.
Posted by LeagueCityTiger
Atascocita, TX
Member since Dec 2007
221 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

Seriously, do you not see how any umpire would call this interference? Your opinion differs from the umpire and that doesn't necessarily mean you're right and he's wrong.


Absolutely!! I never argued that! If I was umpiring I would have probably made the same call. I merely suggested we got lucky. Here is the deal. I not only look at the literal definition of rules but also the "spirit" of it. The spirit of the rule is TO ALLOW THE FIELDER A REASONABLE CHANCE TO CATCH THE BALL AND MAKE A PLAY. Was he given this chance??? Of course he was! Interference should be called if there is contact BEFORE the fielder makes contact with the ball as it is done so 99% of the time. If he fields the ball cleanly and runs into the guy...then it's interference because he doesn't have a chance to make a play then. That's the argument in a nutshell. Goodnight!!!!!! GEAUX Tigers!!!
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6109 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

Lester Earl



He wasn't in pursuit or chase of the ball, so it doesn't apply.

Underneath the obstruction definition:

quote:

A.R. 2: When a fielder has made an attempt to field a batted or thrown ball, has missed and
is in pursuit of the ball, he may no longer be considered “in the act” of fielding.

quote:

A.R. 3: After a fielder has misplayed a batted ball and the ball is “within a step and a reach”
the fielder is still considered “in the act.



So the question is if the fielder was "within a step and a reach" when contact occurred.



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This post was edited on 3/11/11 at 11:28 pm
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28355 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:23 pm to
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6109 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

Where did you want him to run?? Jones is running at full speed and he's headed full speed towards the base. It's not like Jones was a stationary target that he could run around.



He's allowed to run behind the fielder in order to avoid interference.
Posted by Kal_Varnsen
Member since Jan 2005
640 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:24 pm to



Ok, so who is still sticking with "the ball was reachable" argument?
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:24 pm to
Looks like he is to me, the rule doesn't specify which direction the ball has to be in relation to the fielder. That certainly looks like a "step and a reach" to me.
Posted by Kal_Varnsen
Member since Jan 2005
640 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:25 pm to
contact hasn't occured in your photo. Mine is just after yours and the ball is already way behind him. He kicked it pretty hard and was moving forward. Unreachable.
This post was edited on 3/11/11 at 11:27 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:26 pm to
The spirit of the rule? Have you ever officiated any sport??
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:27 pm to
Ok so go forward 3 or 4 frames and contact will be made, 3 or 4 frames is approximately 1/10th of a second, so the ball is maybe a foot further away. Still gonna be within reach
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4295 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

So the question is if the fielder was "within a step and a reach" when contact occurred.
And Jones was completely stationary when the contact occurred right??

Why would you reward the fielder who booted the ball? The contact occurred after the misplay. It had no bearing on the fielding of the ball. Jones is headed full speed in one direction (obviously since he killed the CSF player) so he's got no chance at changing direction and picking the ball up to make a play. Umps can make judgement calls.
Posted by Kal_Varnsen
Member since Jan 2005
640 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:28 pm to
How long do you think his arms are? You are telling me he can reach the ball from the position he's in? He's also running full speed which makes picking up that ball impossible. I love this board.
This post was edited on 3/11/11 at 11:30 pm
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