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re: We got a Break on the Interference Call

Posted on 3/12/11 at 11:39 am to
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 11:39 am to
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Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 12:02 pm to
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he tried to....but whatever this battle has been fought no reason to start it again


This kind of comment keeps sucking me back in. It's like some of you are just here for the sake of arguing. Go watch the video again. The CSF runner NEVER broke his stride. If he just hesitates a half a second it's a totally different ballgame and JJ has his 2nd error of the game. Ump made a judgement call that was technically the right call. Nothing homer about saying that.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 12:07 pm to
MSU IS A HATER!
Posted by Puffoluffagus
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 12:23 pm to
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Posted by msutiger
he tried to....but whatever this battle has been fought no reason to start it again




No he didn't. If he truly were to attempt avoid contact, he is supposed to run behind the fielder in question. You said a few posts ago that he was close to the infield grass, so he must have been trying to avoid then. Guess what the rules only allow for running behind the fielder, not in front, to avoid the interference.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 12:37 pm to
I know, I just gotta quit hating because I finish arguing with one person, and then the next person comes up and says exactly what the same person says. Never ending argument
Posted by Puffoluffagus
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 12:47 pm to
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I know, I just gotta quit hating because I finish arguing with one person, and then the next person comes up and says exactly what the same person says. Never ending argument


Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 12:48 pm to
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he tried to
No he did not.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 1:37 pm to
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It could have all been avoided had the runner stopped before the ball and/or ran behind Jones
If you watch the replay theres no way the baserunner could have anticipated Jones running straight ahead until it was too late.

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like he is coached to do
No one could have coached that guy to be a ninja.
It was a freak play, I watched it over and over and dont fault the baserunner, running at full speed isnt like watching replays from a computer.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
LEFT COAST
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 1:38 pm to
I agree with Cadello.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 1:39 pm to
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he tried toNo he did not.
Argument over.
Gmorgan has spoken.
Posted by Dennis ODell
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 1:40 pm to
After that interference call, did they have runners on first and second when the next guy came up to bat? I thought it should have been first and third. Or am I remembering it wrong?
Posted by Cadello
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 1:42 pm to
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After that interference call, did they have runners on first and second when the next guy came up to bat? I thought it should have been first and third. Or am I remembering it wrong?
Not sure ..I had to work late because my $250 a day helper messed up and costs us to work 2 extra hours..
I missed a good game I'm sure.
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 3:32 pm to
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Guess what the rules only allow for running behind the fielder, not in front, to avoid the interference.
You are clueless on this one. The rules "don't allow" the runner to run in front of a fielder to avoid a collision???? What if the fielder is running backwards to catch a pop up? Does a runner have to run behind him?? That's just dumb.

The fact is, Jacoby Jones misplayed the ball 2-3 steps before he made contact with the runner. He was trying to catch the ball and tag the runner at the same time and he whiffed on the ball leaving it behind him BEFORE running into the baserunner. After he missed the ball, he had ZERO chance of recovering and making a play on the ball regardless of whether he collided with the runner or not. Based on this, the fielder was at fault and the runner should've been allowed the base due to obstruction from the fielder. I'm not faulting the ump who made the call b/c it was a tough call and I can understand his perspective. However, those of you who continue to argue that it was the RIGHT call after having seen the replay and still shots are just LSU homers.
This post was edited on 3/12/11 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6323 posts
Posted on 3/12/11 at 3:49 pm to
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The rules "don't allow" the runner to run in front of a fielder to avoid a collision????


Runners aren't allowed to run outside of the path to the base. The exceptions to this are to avoid interference, in which case the runner is allowed to run behind a fielder in the act of the fielding. There are no exceptions stated that allow the runner to run in front of the fielder in order to avoid interference.

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What if the fielder is running backwards to catch a pop up? Does a runner have to run behind him??


No he doesn't if the fielder isn't in the base path.

Since infielders the majority of the time play behind the base-paths, there aren't too many scenarios in which fielding a pop-up would cause the the fielder to be backing up across the base path. Most would going forward. Thus the runner wouldn't have to make an evasive maneuver, unless the fielder was moving forward to catch it.

The pitcher might be back-tracking to catch a pop-up, in which case, yes, the runner should run behind him.

Unless you can elaborate on a better scenario.
This post was edited on 3/12/11 at 3:50 pm
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/12/11 at 4:18 pm to
Infield playing in??
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 3/12/11 at 4:26 pm to
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the refs were awful last night towards LSU


dude, refs?
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6323 posts
Posted on 3/12/11 at 4:30 pm to
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Infield playing in??


Yeah, that's why I said majority of time.

But you did get me thinking that in the case of a pop up, would the fielder even be consider in the act of fielding? He would just be pursuing/chasing, until he was in position to make the catch, and then he would fielding.

So, in a pop-up scenario, the runner wouldn't be obliged to move out of the way, unless the pop-up is in the base-path, in which the runner should move behind the fielder that is in position.

If the infield is playing in and a pop-up occured, causing the fielder to move backwards, the runner wouldn't be obliged to run out of the base path unless the fielder was already in position to make the catch. If the fielder runs into runner why pursuing the fly ball it would obstruction, yeah?

This is just me quick thinking off the top of my head.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
14142 posts
Posted on 3/12/11 at 4:32 pm to
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The fact is, Jacoby Jones misplayed the ball 2-3 steps before he made contact with the runner. He was trying to catch the ball and tag the runner at the same time and he whiffed on the ball leaving it behind him BEFORE running into the baserunner. After he missed the ball, he had ZERO chance of recovering and making a play on the ball regardless of whether he collided with the runner or not. Based on this, the fielder was at fault and the runner should've been allowed the base due to obstruction from the fielder. I'm not faulting the ump who made the call b/c it was a tough call and I can understand his perspective. However, those of you who continue to argue that it was the RIGHT call after having seen the replay and still shots are just LSU homers.


We've been down this road already. Even after the collision the ball was within reach of the 6'3 Jones. Why do keep coming back in to this thread? The call was TECHNICALLY right by the very definition of the rule.
Posted by LeagueCityTiger
Atascocita, TX
Member since Dec 2007
221 posts
Posted on 3/12/11 at 5:14 pm to
You guys don't get it...It's not about if the ball is reach or not...it's about can the kid MAKE A PLAY and does the RUNNER INTERFERE with the ability to MAKE SAID PLAY. He was running full speed and overran the ball....HE COULD NOT MAKE A PLAY ON THE BALL PERIOD. Please tell me if the collision DID NOT occur where he could make a play?? Please tell me. You can't because no play was to be made at that point. IF Jacoby fields the ball cleanly or if the collisions occurs BEFORE Jacoby had the right to field the ball then YES it is interference. Neither of those occured. I really do not see what is so hard about this.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
70043 posts
Posted on 3/12/11 at 5:27 pm to
He went for the fricking ball, looked up, and then braced himself for the baserunner hauling arse right in his path. He had a chance to pick up the ball if he wasn't paying attention to the runner at all, and if he managed to the collision still would have occurred.
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