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re: We Don't Want to Go to B.R. to Play That Pro Team There...

Posted on 8/2/08 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by pitbull20
Somewhere close... real close
Member since Oct 2003
7765 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

Willy Tuitama tried to say the same thing, but he's still slurring his words from his night in BR so nobody could understand what the hell he was saying.





Guess some USC fans can read something and not take it as a shot at them... well played.
Posted by LSUME86
Baton Rouge of course...
Member since Dec 2006
1871 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

usc6158
well said!
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

Look at USC. If you go back over 10-15 years there's quite a variation.....which also translates to the OOC teams too.


ALready done and it does not transalte well for LSU, but does for USC:

Since 1990

USC

Ohio St.
Oklahoma
Oklahoma
Virginia
Syracuse
Penn St
Penn St.
Penn St.
Penn St.
Penn St.
Penn St.
Nebraska
Nebraska
ND
ND
ND
ND
ND
ND
ND
ND
ND
ND
ND
ND
ND
ND
ND
Illinois
Florida St.
Florida St.
Kansas St.
Kansas St.
Kansas St.
Auburn
Auburn
Arkansas
Arkansas
Purdue
Colorado
Colorado
Colorado St.
BYU
BYU
ND
ND
ND
ND
Hawaii
Baylor
San Diego St.
San Diego St.
San Jose St.
San Jose St.
San Jose St.
Memphis
North Carolina
Houston
Houston
Houston
Idaho
Nevada Las Vegas

12 Non BCS schools

LSU

Va Tech
Va Tech
Arizona
Arizona
Arizona
Arizona St.
Arizona St.
Oregon St.
Texas AM
Texas AM
Texas AM
Texas AM
Texas AM
Florida St.
ND
ND
Colorado St.
Rice
Houston
Houston
UTEP
Arkansas St
Arkansas St.
Troy St.
Troy St.
North Texas
North Texas
North Texas
North Texas
New Mexico St.
USM
Utah St.
Utah St.
Tulane
Tulane
Tulane
Tulane
Tulane
Tulane
Tulane
Tulane
Tulane
Idaho
Akron
Miami, OH
Miami OH
Louisiana Lafayette
Louisiana Lafayette
Louisiana Monroe
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana Tech
UAB
San Jose St.
Fresno St.
W. Carolina
Western Illinois
Appalachian St.
Appalachian St.
Middle Tennessee St.
Middle Tennessee St.
Citadel

38 Non BCS schools and who knows how many Subdivision schools. ANd LSU often has more OOC games

Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

A larger point expounding on that statement would be that since we have rugged conference opponents, there is no need for scheduling several top rated OOC opponents every year. Other teams lack rugged conference opponents, thus the need for scheduling tougher OOC opponents than we do.


I agree 100%. But when some argue that the OOC schedules, as a whole, are not bad, that is just plain wrong.
This post was edited on 8/2/08 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 4:24 pm to
Just think what our OOC shcedule would look like if we were part of the Pac-10: Georgia, Florida, and Auburn!
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21521 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

You pay enough attention to LSU to know that over the last decade LSU has made a strong attempt to have at least one good OOC team every year. LSU has had informal agreements broken, second halves of home and homes pushed back, and teams just flat out break their contract.
quote:

Yeah, I guess this only seems to happen to LSU. Other perrenial top 5 teams seem to have no problem. Rotten luck on LSU's part.



Case in point....

VTech would have been playing for the BCS title last year if they'd not finally nutted up and traveled to BR for their back half of the home-and-home.

If you think ADs don't think about that, you're crazy.

But, I think we've already established that.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 4:30 pm to
So, the much debated theory of "people are scared to play LSU" may actually be accurate?
Posted by ADAMATDAPARTY
The Woods
Member since Jun 2005
2911 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 5:03 pm to
I guess we should schedule tougher opponents.


Strength of schedule

Posted by TigerTailsSoup
Member since Sep 2005
10857 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

Or if Les Miles, the head coach of LSU, said he does not need to play tough OOC opponents


Dear Casey,
Ive have recently been a part of something that I will regret for the rest of my life. As a self-serving USC fan, I often troll the message board of another team and have been for some time. I don't have much self-respect and a lot of free time on my hands. One day while reading the message board, for no apparnet reason, I lost control and made another obnoxious post in the faces of those other fans. While no one died or suffered serious injury, I will never forgive myself for what happened that fateful day. Casey will you please play THE FLAME by Cheap Trick, thank you....

Sincerely,
LSUTANGERINE

The Flame
Posted by VT4
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2004
904 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 5:34 pm to
i was sitting next to big Az booster in great seats in the bowl
those hits by tyson, laron, etc were really severe knockout blows
this zona fan turns to me to comment on the brutality (after laron decleated that qb) and whimpered no mas
the qb admits later he played with a concussion before being taken out

Posted by TrojaninLasVegas
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2005
1262 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 6:18 pm to
In regard to LSU's OOC schedule: Hey, it's your team and you/they can schedule who they want. However, I as a FAN would have difficulty getting excited about buying a ticket to go watch my Tigers trounce teams such as N. Texas, Tulane, Utah St., Mid. Tenn., etc. Obviously it has served you well from the perspective of winning SEC/NC, but I personally can't get too worked up about going and watching a recreation of the Lions vs. the Christians - which is what a lot of those LSU OOC games resemble. Boring.
This post was edited on 8/2/08 at 6:19 pm
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15363 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

LSU, on the other hand, tends to shy away from consistently playing tough OOC opponents


Virginia Tech, Fresno State, Oregon and Arizona come to mind in the last 4 years. Seems like a reasonable OC schedule minus the two pussies from the PAC-10

Throw in Ohio State(MNC), Miami, Oklahoma (MNC), Notre Dame (BCS) in the bowl games.

LSU 7-0
This post was edited on 8/2/08 at 6:42 pm
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37013 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 7:03 pm to
dude, you are such a fricking tool.

your arguments are so freaking bad you just embarrass yourself.

why do you have to change facts and make shitty arguments.

nice job. you went through our old schedules and found the worst teams we played and just left out the good teams we played.

why don't you try to make an argument without changing the facts.
Posted by pitbull20
Somewhere close... real close
Member since Oct 2003
7765 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

but I personally can't get too worked up about going and watching a recreation of the Lions vs. the Christians - which is what a lot of those LSU OOC games resemble. Boring.


With that frame of mind I would coclude you were not very entertained by any of USC's games last year, as none of them were very good.. well maybe Stanford....but hey it's your team right?
Posted by pitbull20
Somewhere close... real close
Member since Oct 2003
7765 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

nice job. you went through our old schedules and found the worst teams we played and just left out the good teams we played.

why don't you try to make an argument without changing the facts.



or, maybe they could stop taking segments of schedules and list the number of ranked teams LSU has played vs USC.... but I guess thats one of those stats they are blind to. Why go and schedule OOC oponents ranked in the top 50 when your conference makes upnearly half the top 10 every year?
Posted by BENGAL44
Petal, MS
Member since Jun 2005
949 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

I as a FAN would have difficulty getting excited about buying a ticket to go watch my Tigers trounce teams such as N. Texas, Tulane, Utah St., Mid. Tenn., etc.


As we would watching the likes of:

Idaho
San Jose St. (CA)
Houston (TX)
Nevada-Las Vegas
San Diego St. (CA)
Louisiana Tech

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61445 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

: Hey, it's your team and you/they can schedule who they want


Hey, IF I did not get to watch my team play more than 1 game on average against a top 10 opponent, I would be a hell of a lot more frustrated.

Easy to treat the awful wounds of playing N Texas, when you know you are also getting to play FL, AU, GA(TN), Alabama , an amazing CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP game, and then a BCS bowl. Not to mention an upstart or two in the SEC. (We equate these "upstart" games to be of the quality of every damn one of your "best" conference games)

But then again coming from the fan of a team that basically has a 1-2 week season year in and year out I could understand your frustration and inability to reason. Good luck with the one game that excites you all damn year. WOW.
Posted by am4titansandlsu
The South
Member since May 2006
10640 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 7:43 pm to
Tang- you have no one to blame but yourself for turning this into another LSU vs. USC thread.
Posted by am4titansandlsu
The South
Member since May 2006
10640 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 7:46 pm to
Th
quote:

e last time we played in Tiger Stadium was 1979, and it took all we had to beat you there. I think we'd have a great game if it were to happen again.

And I think the result would be similar. A USC win, albeit a close one.


I know I'm a LSU homer, but I think the chances of USC coming into Tiger Stadium and winning would be VERY slim nowadays. Our fans got up to 128 decibles when we heard you guys lost to stanford...could you even imagine how loud the place would be if we actually played you guys there. It would be the biggest homefield advantage you could get, not to mention we have a pretty talented football team to boot. Now at USC could be a different story.....
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61445 posts
Posted on 8/2/08 at 7:49 pm to
Only stat you really need to know.

No one here with a logical mind will not say that USC is one of the top three teams in college football. I believe year in and out they are the best.

USC record versus SEC is .590
USC record versus Pac-10 is .704

So use your own team as the barometer of strength of each teams schedule. You immediately see that there is a huge difference.

The .590 against the SEC is similar to the Arizona and UCLA winning percentages in their PAC 10 schedules...you can only assume that your success in the SEC would be only slightly better than Arizona and UCLA success within the PAC-10.
These stats are slightly skewed in favor of the SEC in the abscense of a conf. champ game which guarantees another quality game a year.

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