TrojaninLasVegas

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That's like LSU football losing to Vanderbilt or Miss. St. or even worse losing to Tulane.

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Or, losing to Kentucky and Arkansas (at home) in the same season. That could never happen, now could it. :pimp:

[quote]How ridiculous is Steve spurrier at No. 11?[/quote

As an LSU fan, I don't think you ought to be dissing Steve Spurrier. He was 11-1 against you all while @ Florida. Although, I guess I can understand your angst.

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I'd be willing to bet that there was a helluva lot more money bet on USC -41 than on Stanford +41..

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Actually, I believe the line opened @ USC -43. That means the money came in pretty heavy on Stanford for the line to move two whole points. That is a big move here in Vegas. The line adjusts based on the betting, so there is seldom a game where there is that great a disparity on betting a point spread.

My bad. You are correct. Oregon St. finished #4 and #5 in 2000. It was Oregon who finished #2 in 2001.

The time frame referenced was 1990 thru 2001. Not the LAST decade. I'm not disputing the current talent level of the SEC. You are, top-to-bottom, the most talented conference in college football. My point was that even though you had other talented teams during the referenced time frame, you had one team winning 85% of their conference games, about the same % as Pete Carroll has won in the Pac-10. Just because you have one dominant team doesn't necessarily mean the rest of the teams are not talented. And, regarding Alabama and Tenn. winning NC: The Pac-10 had Oregon and Oregon St. finish #2 in the country during this time frame prior to Pete Carroll's arrival @ USC. Hardly indicative of a "weak conference."

For all of you wanting to dump on the Pac-10 because one team has dominated the past six years, maybe you should look at the recent history of your own conference.

Just ten years ago? This team had the following head-to-head records against its fellow conference members over a 12 year period:

3-0
10-0
11-1
11-1
8-4
6-3
8-3
12-0
10-0-1
2-0
4-2

Record of 85 wins and only 15 losses from 1990 thru 2001 in their conference games. A winning % of .850 or 85% in their conference games. Who is this team and which conference do they play in?

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As we would watching the likes of Idaho, San Jose St., San Diego St., Houston, UNLV and La Tech.

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Idaho - last played in 2007
San Jose St. - 2001
San Diego St. - 1999
Houston - 1996
UNLV - 1997
La Tech - 1999

During that time frame USC has scheduled the following teams - most home-and-away: Florida St., Penn St., Purdue, Nebraska, Arkansas, Virginia Tech, BYU, Auburn, Colorado, Kansas St. and Illinois with Ohio St. and Virginia on deck. And, Notre Dame every year. For those wanting to downplay the current status of Nebraska and Notre Dame I will say two things: Nebraska was a top-10 team coming off of three NC during the 90's when those games were scheduled and ND has perenially been a top-10 team since USC began playing them in 1925. Not to mention that both of these programs have a more storied football history than LSU. When we played K-St., they were a top-10 team and Colorado was top-20. Florida St. was top-5 and #1 one of the years USC played them. I guess the closest thing LSU has to a regular OOC rival would be Tulane. Now, that must really get you all excited every year! :lol:

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Also, this constant berating of OSU only serves to discount what LSU accomplished this past January.

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Wow! Finally someone who gets it. I have never understood the thought process of someone who tears down the quality/talent of an opponent but then wants props for beating them. Doesn't/shouldn't work that way. LSU beat some good teams last season, and tOSU was one of them. :cheers:

Rodman: Here are some facts to ponder before you start poking fun at Washington:

From 1989 thru 2007, they had a grand total of 4 losing seasons. None of them prior to this decade. They had 8 seasons with 8 or more wins, including a NC in 1991.
During that same time frame, LSU had 8 losing seasons - double the # of Washington. And, LSU had exactly TWO seasons during that time frame with 8 or more wins until this decade. Obviously, LSU is currently the stronger program. But if you know anything about the history of college football, you know that Washington has had more success both at the conference as well as the national level over the years. And, they will be back. Taking for granted a "W" next year in Seattle would be a huge mistake.