re: Watched the game again last night..........

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With all the Jefferson does poorly you have to admit he's a safe as they come.

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The only man that never fails is the man that never tries.


We won 8 games in 2008 with an absolutely horrible defense. Put this year's Defense, with the exact same offense from 2008 (including the same play results including INTs and Pick 6s) and we win 10 or 11 games that year.

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The only man that never fails is the man that never tries. We won 8 games in 2008 with an absolutely horrible defense. Put this year's Defense, with the exact same offense from 2008 (including the same play results including INTs and Pick 6s) and we win 10 or 11 games that year.

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great points

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Even with INTs we averaged more points with JL than JJ...enough said.

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Uhm in 2008 we had a much better offensive line and much better running game. However, when JL finally got a chance to redeem himself last season, he miserably failed with the 2009 offensive line and running game. Why is that you think?

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You are so correct. That is because JJ took off running when his primary receiver wasn't open. Thus, the play was recorded as a rush and not a pass play.

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You better go re-watch the game and stop making a fool out of yourself.

I want to know why it has to be one or the other.

Most of JJ's bashers refuse to acknowledge anything good that he does.

From the game on Saturday, I saw him operating the offense rather than participating within it. He made several audibles. He made a handful of checkdowns.

Does that make him amazing? No.

But it also doesn't make him a complete liability.

All of the drives but one that sputtered into FGs in the 1st half weren't on JJ. The other was a slightly overthrown fade that still probably could have been caught.

One was a well designed screen pass that would have gone for a TD. The DL made a nice leaping play to knock it down and Barksdale didn't do a good enough job blocking him to stop that. Otherwise, that's a TD.

Another one, TT runs a slant across the middle, Clement looks lost and runs right into the path of his route. TT undercuts him, JJ hits him, but he's 2 yards short of the first down that he would have had if Clement didn't interrupt his route.

On another Shep dropped a 3rd down pass that he had a little room to run and could have put us in a 4th and very short at worst.

The last was a protection breakdown where JJ had to hurry a thrown and got hit.

Here is Crowton's reasoning:

JJ takes care of the ball.
He gives maximum effort.
He can run well and move the chains with his feet.
he's a disaster on the deep drop so we can't run that more than ocassionally.
He's reasonably accurate on the roll-out.
The roll-out shortens the field for him,simplifies his reads, allows him to use half the field or run as is neccesary for an INSTINCTIVE qb (as opposed to a cerebral qb).

JL, who is a gunslinger and someone with a lot of hero and big -play ability in him has a habit of throwing pick sixes.
These pick sixes cause us to LOSE.
The point of the game is to WIN.
Let's go with the guy who gives us the best chance to win.
Especially given the ferocity of the Defense.
Who cares if it's not pretty, with our D we should have a chance to get good field position, get up on teams, grind it out and get the W.

We have to take the world as it IS rather than how we wish it were.
Disagree all you want,call people names, throw a chair, cry like a bitch-arse punk,whine like a punk-arse-bitch, but this is the deal.

Learn it, Live it, Love it.
Embrace your team.
The season is almost 1/3 over.
It's going to be a GREAT year.

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Stop sucking Jefferson off, he's not good. We score points with JL......that's all

Tired of arguing with an idiot.

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You are the nut rubbing buddy of JL, which is why you started this entire thread to begin with. You wanted to vilify JJ and lobby for JL, which is why your third post claimed that JL should be the starter instead of JJ. You were too stupid to figure out that someone who knows far more about football than you do would come along and expose you for the shyster you really are. Get out of here you loser; you have zero credibility and you are also more than a little mentally deficient!

Yeah I forgot, you're way smarter than me. I guess you one of them High School douche bag coaches that think they know it all huh? LOSER

LOser is his word your not alowed to use it . Nice avi btw