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re: Video of Postgame Altercation - quality is terrible ETA - new Krag “punch” video

Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by WoWyHi
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:56 pm to
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DBG


Aren't you married to 4cubbies?
Posted by Walnut
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:59 pm to
What I really want a source on is this which has been floating around



If it's true, it makes Krag's story entirely full of shite. It DOESN'T justify Craig or Fisher's actions, but it does call into question Krag's testimony more than any video will
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:00 pm to
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So that's what we can objectively deduce from the videos, now for some subjective takes. To me it looks like Faulk confronted Fisher (probably in retaliation for assaulting Krag), they started shoving each other, then Fisher took a swing at him and got his arse beat in retaliation.

I would say the most you can take away from this to refute Krag's claims is he might have been shoved in the chest and dislodged his pacemaker, but thought he was punched. If the dude isn't medically ok then enough force even from a shove can cause problems for him. Faulk got pissed because one of his own was getting fricked with by a college kid who wasn't using his head, and then some blows were exchanged.

Am I missing anything here? This doesn't do much to make Texas A&M look better. It doesn't change that they denied even knowing who Cole Fisher is, that an altercation on the field even happened even though Krag needed medical attention on the field, or that A&M coaches were on our sideline jawing off trying to start a fight. Did the man with a pacemaker go to the team doctor and then schedule an appointment with his neurologist just for attention or because he's a sore loser? Occam's razor says no, he probably got hurt at some point on the field.

Use your god damn brains
see this is the problem with the whole thing. Craig was an arse, the kid was apparently trying to remove him, Krag comes running up to them mouthing off, kid shoves Krag away, Faulk gets mad, Faulk and kid fight, Battle with a cheap shot.

Now I don't blame the kid for shoving him away, hell the kid probably had no clue who Krag was. 99% of this board probably couldn't identify him if he was sitting next to them at Starbucks. So shoving him was a typical response, Faulk didn't see what Krag did only the shove, so he goes hulk and gets punched while punching, and Battle just did a cheap shot.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 9:01 pm
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5760 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:02 pm to
Does anyone else see the UFO streak overhead and then dissappear? This needs to be looked into, something Fishy Goin on.

See what I did there.......fishy Ha.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21610 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:03 pm to
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You very, very clearly stated where the fault lied, and nowhere in that statement did you assign any fault to LSU. So that would be where I got that from.


Do you know what the word fault means?

It’s Craig’s fault this all started and the boys fault for bringing it to a physical level.

That has nothing to do with what I think of anyone on the LSU squads response.

The most important detail is who was at fault. Notwithstanding the fact that we just went through a contentious ending to a game.

Nobody wants to hear that Faulk could have handled it better. No shite. But it’s understandable where he was coming from


Posted by WoWyHi
Member since Jul 2009
23339 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:05 pm to
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OceanMan


You do know that not only is it possible for multiple people to be at fault, but also assigned levels of being at fault too, right?
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 9:06 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21610 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:08 pm to
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Now I don't blame the kid for shoving him away, hell the kid probably had no clue who Krag was. 99% of this board probably couldn't identify him if he was sitting next to them at Starbucks. So shoving him was a typical response,


Shoving someone is a typical response that you are ready to get physical. He shoved a man with a debilitating disease and a more able bodied individual subbed in for him.

I know that’s not the point you are making, I’m just trying to give some context as well
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5760 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:09 pm to
Or Kragthorp, being a coach and adult that doesn't want a huge deal made about the incident decided to recant and be done with it. Saying this makes his story FOS is ignorant and totally unnecessary.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:10 pm to
Yes, he totally knew who it was running at him and that he had Parkinson's. Shoving someone is also a typical response when you want them to get away from you.

Oh and it is also a typical response when you are trying to keep people away from others.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Walnut
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3733 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:14 pm to
I disagree, shoving in a tense situation is a quick way to get your arse beat, but I could chalk that up to Cole Fisher being young and thus, to an extent, stupid.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:15 pm to
some of you will justify anything

The kid was pulling Craig away, Krag came running up to them yelling, he shoved Krag in an effort to push him away from Craig. If anything Krag knowing his own condition was the stupid one.
Posted by WoWyHi
Member since Jul 2009
23339 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:17 pm to
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The kid was pulling Craig away, Krag came running up to them yelling, he shoved Krag in an effort to push him away from Craig. If anything Krag knowing his own condition was the stupid one.


This is what I see, at least in that video.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21610 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:18 pm to
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Oh and it is also a typical response when you are trying to keep people away from others.


The man had his hands behind his back

quote:

Shoving someone is also a typical response when you want them to get away from you.


He was not even paying attention to the kid.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:18 pm to
People are acting like he knew who Krag was when they probably couldn't identify him public
Posted by Walnut
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3733 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:18 pm to
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some of you will justify anything

I'm not justifying anything, I'm just saying that Fisher shouldn't be surprised he got punched in the face.

I agree that Krag shouldn't have put himself in that situation with his condition either.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:20 pm to
I think we can all agree that Krag's didn't get punched in the chest out of nowhere

That makes me call the validity of everything he said into question, honestly.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:20 pm to
Yeah I legit wouldn't know Kragthorphe if he bit me
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:20 pm to
You mean where he is jawing in the kids ear standing behind him? The kid turned around and gave him a shove to get away. Nothing about that shoved indicated he wanted to fight, he wanted the person mouthing off to get away.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:21 pm to
Your entire first post I quoted justified everything, from saying the kid assualted Krag and all
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21610 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:22 pm to
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You do know that not only is it possible for multiple people to be at fault, but also assigned levels of being at fault too, right?


I think given the situation, the preponderance of fault weighs heavily toward Craig and boy Jimbo

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