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re: Video of Barkevious Mingo's 1st career NFL sack

Posted on 9/17/13 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by KG5989
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 3:46 pm to
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He will garner constant double teaming. The Browns DC will have to move him around to avoid that double team.


The Browns have 4 legit edge rush players on their team. Itll be too hard to pick which 1 to double team. Kruger, Sheard, Groves, and Mingo.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 3:50 pm to
I haven't followed the Browns but given the fact that they are 0-2 they must have an offense that can't score points. Richardson, like Ingram, must be an NFL flop too.
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 4:10 pm to
Topic of interest baby!
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 4:22 pm to
I gotcha. No biggie haha. But yea the Browns offense is horrible. No QB play at all. Their D, on the other hand, is pretty freaking solid. Lots of pass rushers and good LBs.

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Richardson, like Ingram, must be an NFL flop too.


Nope. Richardson is on a diff level than Ingram already. Hes a legit NFL RB. The Browns offense just sucks.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 4:30 pm to
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Richardson, like Ingram, must be an NFL flop too.


Please, God, no. Not this year anyway.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 4:37 pm to
1st play evar? Nice....!!
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26614 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 4:37 pm to
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Nope. Richardson is on a diff level than Ingram already. Hes a legit NFL RB. The Browns offense just sucks.


Richardson still sucks and averages less than 4 yards for his career same as Ingram
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 4:38 pm to
Why was Mingo's LSU career less than stellar? Great athlete, don't get me wrong, but statistically speaking was average
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 4:47 pm to
Richardson doesnt suck. His team sucks. His OL cant block anybody. And his QB isnt a threat so teams pack the box.

The reason Ingram sucks is because, for the most part, the Saints have been a very good team, and usually a solid running team stat wise. We dont have an individual rusher that gets a lot of yards, but as a team we usually are a good rushing team. Ingram has been given every chance to be a solid RB, and he never does it. Then, we give the ball to Pierre, and it goes for 5 yards.

TRich is a good, legit NFL RB. Ingram, not so much. Yea, TRich only has averaged 3.5 YPC in his career. But, his 1st season he rushed for 950 yards and 11 TDs, and also caught 51 passes for 367 yards and a TD. So, as a rookie, TRich had 1,317 yards and 12 TDs. Pretty damn good season. Really good for a rookie.

Ingrams total numbers in the NFL, 2 seasons and 2 games, are 1,182 yards and 10 TDs. TRich did better than that in 1 season.

You can say Ingram does suck, because he really does, but there is no reason to say TRich sucks. Because he doesnt.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 4:50 pm to
Mingo was playing in a 4-3 DE at LSU. Still had average numbers, and led the SEC in QB Hurries. But, he was getting a lot of RBs and TEs chipping on him in passing situations, and teams would try and neutralize him by running rollouts away from him and getting rid of the ball quick.

He also never was a 4-3 DE with a hand in the dirt. Mingo was always best in space with room to run. Which is what he will be doing in Cleveland as a 3-4 OLB. Thats his natural position.

Mingo was always a freak on the field, just didnt fit that great in our system. And thats not a coaches fault at all. Our D has always been really good with the system we run. It just so happened that we didnt utilize Mingo as best as we could because of the system we ran. Nobodys fault. Sometimes it just happens.
This post was edited on 9/17/13 at 4:53 pm
Posted by windhammontanatigers
windham-stanford, montana
Member since Nov 2009
4993 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 5:13 pm to
Way to Geaux Mingo.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:31 pm to
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Ingrams total numbers in the NFL, 2 seasons and 2 games, are 1,182 yards and 10 TDs. TRich did better than that in 1 season.


I agree with what you said until this point. In two years Ingram has just as many attempts as Richardson had in one year stat wise they are pretty much equal . I don't like Ingram but this is a rather weak point
Posted by Bel Air Tiger
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2007
2403 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:50 pm to
thx sampson -great to see him in action again...
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60254 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:51 pm to
Because Mingo was loyal and went to LSU when he was much more suited to play in a 3-4 defense. He played out of position for 4 years at LSU.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:42 pm to
That was naicccee!
This post was edited on 9/17/13 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
9964 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 9:07 pm to
Wait a second lol he's an outside linebacker guess that joke became real.
Posted by Gizmeaux
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:49 am to
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/18/13 at 7:15 am to
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:54 am to
quote:

I agree with what you said until this point. In two years Ingram has just as many attempts as Richardson had in one year stat wise they are pretty much equal . I don't like Ingram but this is a rather weak point


I agree with that... but it took Ingram 2 years to get that amount of touches. If your a good RB, you will get the touches.

Thats like saying a guy like Pierre Thomas or Bernard Pierce are top 15 RBs because they averaged a top 15 YPC. But, they only 108 and 105 carries. Ingrams average YPC should be BETTER than TRich because he had less touches per year and his carries have come more spread out and over 2 seasons.
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