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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:36 pm to TheDoc
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:36 pm to TheDoc
Doc, do you remember saying this:
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This video will be compared with other video, such as camera phones from inside the bar and security camera footage of the players. Match up the clothes, match the players. It's not that complicated. The shitty video is important, but not as a primary video. If that makes sense. ...
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 8:39 pm
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:38 pm to Lsuismyfav
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Doc, do you remember say this:
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:39 pm to Baloo
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"He said his clients weren't drinking at Shady's Bar the night of the brawl. He said they went to pick up a friend, and that's when the fight broke out."
That's a statement from his attorney, Bienvenu, on behalf of his client. So, yes -- Lowery denied being in the bar. He "went to pick up a friend". That is a lie.
His attorney can say he was there to dance the huly-guly...it matters not.
In terms of the law, you are only lying when you tell the police something that isnt true.
sorry.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:39 pm to Lsuismyfav
Now I don't know about EBR, but the backlog for DNA testing in Orleans Parish is, in some cases, literally 8-10 years. As in, they are just now getting around to DNA testing rape kits that they collected well before K. If they indeed got JJ's DNA tested in the 48 hours (or whatever) between warrant and arrest you have to wonder about the priorities.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:40 pm to Cold Cous Cous
I'm not reading 24 pages but after the initial video did anyone get the Chad Jones Illegal tackle video. Holy shite.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:40 pm to CptBengal
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sorry
Baloo is an attorney...
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:41 pm to Baloo
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That's a statement from his attorney, Bienvenu, on behalf of his client. So, yes -- Lowery denied being in the bar. He "went to pick up a friend". That is a lie.
Sorry not the same thing.
His attorney could of said he was there trying to sell bibles. Might not look good as a PR move, but doesn't prove Lowery is lied. (Not taking up or Lowery) but Lowery is not held accountable for what his lawyers says, only what Lowery says to the cops.
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A person has responsibility for a statement made by a person's attorney on their behalf
HOW?
No offense Baloo, but Lowery is only responsibly for what Lowery tells the police officers. Not what his lawyers spews to the media.
May be in public opinion, but not in a court room.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:41 pm to Lsuismyfav
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This video will be compared with other video, such as camera phones from inside the bar and security camera footage of the players. Match up the clothes, match the players. It's not that complicated. The shitty video is important, but not as a primary video. If that makes sense. ...
ok?
there are still multiple kickers in the videos, so I don't get your point?
one of which is wearing a black shirt
one of which is wearing a light shirt
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:42 pm to ForeLSU
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Baloo is an attorney...
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:43 pm to CptBengal
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His attorney can say he was there to dance the huly-guly...it matters not.
In terms of the law, you are only lying when you tell the police something that isnt true.
sorry.
This is straight up bullshite and you know it. Can Lowery be charged with perjury based on what his attorney said? No. So if that's what you mean by "in terms of the law" then you're right, in the narrowest, most technical sense of the term.
But if Lowery did tell his attorney he wasn't in the bar, and his attorney repeated that to the media -- which is 99% likely what happened, unless you think his attorney was flat making shite up -- that really damages Lowery's credibility. Pretending otherwise is just foolish.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:44 pm to CptBengal
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"He said his clients weren't drinking at Shady's Bar the night of the brawl. He said they went to pick up a friend, and that's when the fight broke out."
what if he's talking about the other 3 clients?
obviously he's not talking about lowery because he was inside the bar.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:44 pm to denvertiger
quote:I don't know. Depends on how the weight of the evidence shapes my theory of the case. If it helps me say what I want, yes. But you never know how demonstrative evidence, especially your own, can bite you on the arse. So far, the tape looks helpful to neutral to JJ.
So you obviously know what you're talking about....if you're JJ's atty, do you us the tape or not?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:45 pm to TheDoc
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The video doesn't matter. It doesn't really change anything.
it really doesn't.
just shows that there was a fight with multiple people kicking people on the ground
It's shows that the LSU football player in black ( Kicking someone on the ground ) will take the field in dallas and look bad on LSU ! Right ? JJ gets kicked off team for kicking someone and the guy in black gets to play !!!!!
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:45 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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But if Lowery did tell his attorney he wasn't in the bar, and his attorney repeated that to the media
so we have no idea what he told his attorney.
We know what his attorney said.
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which is 99% likely what happened,
you have access to what he told his attorney?
care to share?
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Pretending otherwise is just foolish.
Yet believing the entire BRPD is in on a conspiracy to railroad JJ isn't...
yall are too much.Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:45 pm to CptBengal
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His attorney can say he was there to dance the huly-guly...it matters not.
In terms of the law, you are only lying when you tell the police something that isnt true.
Eh... perjury is really the only 'lying' worth being worried about. And an atty is not supposed to "knowingly" make false statements. That really gets a few off of the hook but I'm guessing that Lowery's atty was communicating what was said to the police by his client.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:45 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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But if Lowery did tell his attorney he wasn't in the bar, and his attorney repeated that to the media -- which is 99% likely what happened, unless you think his attorney was flat making shite up -- that really damages Lowery's credibility
IN public opinion yes....but if Lowery didnt make these statements to the police he is fine.
HIs lawyer can tell the media anything he wants, his lawyer is not under oath. His lawyer is talking to the media.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:45 pm to TheDoc
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million dollar question
I think JJ is going down in flames to protect other players
just my opinion
WHY on God's green earth would he do that? I'm not being ugly ... just really wondering why it would be done.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:47 pm to denvertiger
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but I'm guessing that Lowery's atty was communicating what was said to the police by his client.
was he speaking about Lowery or the OTHER THREE VICTIMS?
I dont believe he mentioned names.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:47 pm to tiger91
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WHY on God's green earth would he do that? I'm not being ugly ... just really wondering why it would be done.
because he doesn't want to be a snitch, simple as that. is it foolish, yeah probably, but i think that's probably what's going on if he isn't really the kicker. seems like sometimes people would rather test their luck than snitch on someone
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:48 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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This is straight up bullshite and you know it. Can Lowery be charged with perjury based on what his attorney said? No. So if that's what you mean by "in terms of the law" then you're right, in the narrowest, most technical sense of the term.
But if Lowery did tell his attorney he wasn't in the bar, and his attorney repeated that to the media -- which is 99% likely what happened, unless you think his attorney was flat making shite up -- that really damages Lowery's credibility. Pretending otherwise is just foolish.
Cous Cous beat me to it.
I was only talking about Lowery's credibility. Others seem to think that I'm arguing about filing a false report or committing perjury. I'm not. I'm only talking about Lowery's credibility as a witness. He didn't commit perjury for the obvious reason that he wasn't under oath.
As a said upthread, its up to the jury to decide who to believe (if it goes to trial).
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