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re: Urban Meyer dropping knowledge this morning

Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:59 am to
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32983 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:59 am to
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You are capped offensively if your QB isn’t a running threat. Urban Meyer, the greatest offense mind in CFB history, proves that. If your guy can’t move you’re playing behind the 8 ball


Last I checked, Trask and Mac Jones are not running threats beyond avoiding a sack and picking up the occasional wide open first down. Their stats do not agree with you.
Posted by ThePaleHorse
Houston
Member since Jul 2011
807 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:17 am to
In a normal year, yes. Doesnt truly apply in 2020.
None of your 3 may even exist at LSU. But we know for sure that this Covid year has caused a lot of problems for LSU. Quit searching.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12640 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:28 am to
He nailed it.

quote:

1) lack of trust

Obvious that the defensive players dont trust each other. Not doing their jobs.

2) disfunctional work environment
Has a lot to do with new coordinators and covid off season. Expectations were far too high and leads to frustration like he said. Also the BLM stuff before the season didnt help

3) selfishness
Players opting out and leaving early is a sign of this. Probably plenty of it still around too

This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 8:29 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:32 am to
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Trask and Mac Jones are not running threats beyond avoiding a sack and picking up the occasional wide open first down.


Bama is always the exception

Florida already has a loss. To Texas A&M lol. They aren’t winning a championship
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29757 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:42 am to
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1) losing the most players to the nfl in an offseason in the history of history




Oh is that why we are the worst defense of all time this year and heading to a 3-7 season?

We lost 7 players on defense to the NFL.
Ohio State lost 7 defensive starters to the NFL after 2016, as well as their QB, all pro RB and all pro WR. They went on to have a normal OSU season, losing no more than 2 games.

We aren't the first team to lose a buttload of players to the draft. We are however, the first team to lose those players and suck as bad as we are this year. THere's no excuse to be this bad. None. It's one thing to finish the season 6-4. That's excuseable. What we are about to do is fricking pathetic, and embarrassing, and you haven't seen anything like this from teams like OSU, Bama, or UGA, teams that have had years where they lost a shite load of players to the NFL.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:06 am to
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We lost 7 players on defense to the NFL.


1. KLC
2. Queen
3. Fulton
4. Delpit
5. Phillips
6. Lawrence
7. Divinity
8. Fehoko
9. Shelvin
10. Vincent


quote:

as well as their QB,


Do you homework at least

All I ask
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8121 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 10:12 am to
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Lester Earl


Honest question here, not being shitty.

Even given the historic situation (everything you’ve pointed out is true), is it justifiable to be THIS bad?

I suffered through the 90s so I’ve seen bad football. I saw overmatched LSU teams get stomped but also saw them give really good teams all they wanted on occasion...91 FSU, 92 Fla, 93 Bama (win) 94 A&M and Auburn, just to name a few. Point being, even in the darkest period in LSU history, there was at least at times, hope. Not only do I not see a win in the 5 games remaining, I see little chance that in at least three of them that we don’t lose by 50 points or more. So in essence, even worse than those 90s teams. That’s unfathomable to a lot of people given LSU’s current stature in CFB.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Even given the historic situation (everything you’ve pointed out is true), is it justifiable to be THIS bad?




No, they should be better absolutely. But there are a tangled web of issues and it starts with the players, coaching turnover, and limited practice time.

I did not like most of the coaching hires this offseason, fwiw. And said as such.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29757 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:27 am to
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7. Divinity
8. Fehoko



They barely even played.
Fehoko had 8 tackles in 8 games.
Divinity played in 5 games b/c he's a dumbass.


That's still no reason to be complete and udder dogshit on defense this year when you finished 5th, 15th and 7th in recruiting the last 3 years, unless all you cared about recruiting was offensive players and didn't put much emphasis on defense in those classes............especially the last 2.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14873 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:51 am to
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1) losing the most players to the nfl in an offseason in the history of history 2) replacing both coordinators, as well as players mentioned above, in a shortened, unprecedented pandemic season. 3)lack of a talented, mobile QB


Not good enough reason to excuse being as bad as we are. 3) is completely just absurd. Brennan was a more than capable QB.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:58 am to
Divinity was arguably the best player on the 2018 defense. Had he played last year, maybe Phillips or Queen are still around.


Fehoko played in all 15 games. not sure where you get 8 from. Still, good enough to be on an NFL practice squad.



quote:

That's still no reason to be complete and udder dogshit on defense this year when you finished 5th, 15th and 7th in recruiting the last 3 years, unless all you cared about recruiting was offensive players and didn't put much emphasis on defense in those classes............especially the last 2.





Forget about the 2019 draft and who they lost.


Since then, they have lost:

McClendon
Justin Thomas
Shelvin

Marcel Brooks

Kary Vincent

All of these guys were scheduled starters


And in one of the losses, Derek Stingley didnt play.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:59 am to
Brennan is ok. He isnt a championship QB, and his play has been detrimental at times.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33893 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:10 pm to
Defection of the coaches wasn't the issue. It was replacing them with stiffs.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:36 pm to
Both are issues, and defenses around the country are proving that.
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