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re: Updated: ESPN reports TM7 wants to stay; nola.com says not so fast
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:55 am to JPLSU1981
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:55 am to JPLSU1981
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If they now say, "ok, we will let you sit out a year" then it has the potential to really blow up in LSU's face. Because if they did let him back, it would definitely signal that he either A)had only failed 3 tests to begin with and was never deserving of of permanent ineligibility or B)he had failed more than 3 tests to begin with and was allowed more leeway than the policy calls for
I don't think the fallout would be that bad since 1.) NCAA violations don't apply in this case
2.) They never have to disclose how many tests he failed and for what, which is also significant.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 12:02 pm
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:55 am to JPLSU1981
I thought he only failed 2, including the 1 game suspension last year. Then this would be 3. Of course TM7 could have, and it is likely given his temperament on field, mouthed off and let the hood ego fly.
Either way he is off the team as of now, but I still hope he finds his way back to LSU.
Either way he is off the team as of now, but I still hope he finds his way back to LSU.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:57 am to 10888bge
He sits for a year and comes back next year as the veteran CB that paid his dues and gets taken in the 2nd round at the NFL draft.
It'll be the comeback story of the year.
It'll be the comeback story of the year.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:58 am to Topwater Trout
He'll always be a Tiger. And one of the best ever. Where he plays the next won't effect how I remember him.
What ever is best for the young man. I'm all for it.
What ever is best for the young man. I'm all for it.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:59 am to Mr. Wayne
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One question. If this is beyond his 3rd failed test, wouldn't Miles be getting blasted for letting a star player remain above the rules? I'm going to go ahead with the thought process that this was the third failed test, and when Mathieu was presented with the option of sitting a year, the transfer looked good. After talking with family and reevaluating, he is looking into the possibility of staying. He either failed more than 3 test and Miles broke the rules to let him stay on the team, or he failed three tests and has every right to have the opportunity to work his way back on the team.
If you read and understand what I posted, then I don't see where any rules were broken. Even after 3 strikes, there is an appeal process with flexibility. The only thing that leads to a permanent ban is a failed test after that appeal. As I said I don't know the facts, but if terms are being used properly (no where near a certainty), then they did as much for him as they possibly could.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:59 am to NoGeaux
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Others like Kleinpeter at the TImes Pic have and like both Miles and Alleva stated last week when asked on the record said there was no path back for him.
They were both asked if Tyrann could sit out a year and then return to the team, both said they didn't think Tyrann wanted to do that. Nothing about it being impossible or him being kicked out of school.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:01 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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They never have to disclose how many tests he failed and for what which is also significant.
Yes but does Miles lose face with the team if he lets him come back in a year? I say no, the other players can see how devastating this was and have all learned a lesson. Is the decision 50/50 Miles and Aleva?
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:01 pm to JPLSU1981
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If they now say, "ok, we will let you sit out a year" then it has the potential to really blow up in LSU's face. Because if they did let him back, it would definitely signal that he either A)had only failed 3 tests to begin with and was never deserving of of permanent ineligibility or B)he had failed more than 3 tests to begin with and was allowed more leeway than the policy calls for
You are forgetting another possibility though. What if at the time Miles made the statement that Mathieu would not be returning, he was told by Mathieu, "no thanks coach, I am choosing to go to an FCS school and enter the draft rather than sit out a year and return in 2013." Miles could have absolutely believed that based on their conversation, TM7 would never be seen in Purple and Gold again. But Mathieu changing his mind opens things back up and it is up to Miles and only Miles if he wants to let him try to come back. I seriously doubt Miles is the type to worry about looking foolish in front of the camera. It has never stopped him before.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:02 pm to KielandsCalves
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They were both asked if Tyrann could sit out a year and then return to the team, both said they didn't think Tyrann wanted to do that. Nothing about it being impossible or him being kicked out of school.
Exactly
I'm sure tyrann told them as much, looked at his options over the weekend, and changed his mind.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:03 pm to Mr. Wayne
quote:this is likely what happened. The only part that probably isn't right is that its all up to les miles. I think alleva and others are involved as well.
But Mathieu changing his mind opens things back up and it is up to Miles and only Miles if he wants to let him try to come back. I seriously doubt Miles is the type to worry about looking foolish in front of the camera. It has never stopped him before.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:04 pm to 10888bge
FWIW - TM's latest tweet (one day ago)
quote:
Patience.... Sometimes you have to stop doing what is easy and begin to do the things that are hard... #Faith
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:04 pm to heartbreakTiger
Ponamsky seems to think that TM7 is thinking about this. Supposedly an influential family member wants him to NOT do the easy thing and transfer. This story has some legs.
Keeps in line with TM7s quote.
Keeps in line with TM7s quote.
quote:
Patience.... Sometimes you have to stop doing what is easy and begin to do the things that are hard... #Faith
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:05 pm to W
If he did this and legitimately cleaned up his act, it'd be a great story.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:06 pm to LSUEnvy
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Yes but does Miles lose face with the team if he lets him come back in a year?
I don't think so, it will be more difficult on TM7 to go that route instead of transfering to McNeese.
I'd think the players would respect Miles even more for giving TM7 an opportunity to redeem himself.
It's still a big punishment.
In other word, I agree with you.
quote:
Is the decision 50/50 Miles and Aleva?
I hope it's more Miles than Alleva but who knows.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:06 pm to Duckie
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Ponamsky seems to think that TM7 is thinking about this.
I trust him over anyone else fwiw
And that recent tweet sounds like reality hit him
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:08 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
i hope its miles choice. I wonder if alleva said no while miles wants to give the kid another chance if that would cause major friction bt the 2.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:09 pm to TheDoc
which if tm7 is thinking about it id think he would have at least contacted les to make sure its an option or been told by les it was still an option.
fwiw all of his stuff on facebook since has sounded like reality hit him.
fwiw all of his stuff on facebook since has sounded like reality hit him.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:10 pm to heartbreakTiger
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i hope its miles choice. I wonder if alleva said no while miles wants to give the kid another chance if that would cause major friction bt the 2.
It needs to be Miles's decision IMO and I hope Alleva understands that, I think he does.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:10 pm to W
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FWIW - TM's latest tweet (one day ago)
quote:
Patience.... Sometimes you have to stop doing what is easy and begin to do the things that are hard... #Faith
I think one condition of any kind of return would have to be that he has to close that damnable Twitter account.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:10 pm to TheDoc
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I trust him over anyone else fwiw
He also just said that Miles and Co. are investigating their options.
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