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re: Updated: Brandon Murray and Xavier Pinson in the transfer portal

Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by ellessuuuu
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:17 pm to
Yep. Regardless of how you felt about Wade.
Woody showed how little he intends on investing in men’s basketball with this hire.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:24 pm to
Oh I do question his baseball sense I just don’t question that baseball is a priority.
Posted by UnoMe
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:29 pm to
Never said he committed a lawful/criminal act but:

quote:

Definition of illegal (Entry 1 of 2) : not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit also : not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game) illegal. noun.


What Wade did was not sanctioned within the rules of NCAA guidelines at the time of alleged acts, so it equals illegal by definition.
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:38 pm to
Man I have not seen Gaines mentioned is he gone?

I would think Gaines is the single most important player on the roster rn other then maybe Reid or O'Neal.

Gaines is going to make another jump this next year and be that much better he is the most physically talented guy on the team. What he does not a lot of people can do. New coach, depleted roster he has a huge chance to take a big step forward.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:42 pm to
Adam Miller has denied reports he has already entered the portal (still expected)
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:57 pm to
Basketball isn't football nor baseball. It is much easier to assemble a competitive squad in hoop. At the risk of being hooted the players leaving are replaceable with the exception of Eason. Remove your General's glasses and look at the squads still competing in the NCAA's - to include the 16 ousted - LSU wasn't in their league.

This new HC will be fine if for no other reason he will bring a balanced approach to the game....something WW never did...Offense/Defense/Free Throws...something was always missing
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:00 pm to
Balanced is good in theory. But you’ve got to have the guys to compete in the SEC. I’m concerned he just won’t be able to recruit on that level.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

Yep. Regardless of how you felt about Wade.
Woody showed how little he intends on investing in men’s basketball with this hire.


Can you explain your stance?
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15775 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:02 pm to
That's a possibility but this I know -the teams still playing are pretty darn balanced and that seems to be a basic ingredient no matter the sport.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9535 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:04 pm to
Sure he brought in a coach at a salary that will be in the bottom half of the league and was making $500K last year. He grabbed the low hanging fruit. All his other searches were deliberate and he made strong runs at established coaches. He didn’t make that same effort here.

ETA. He also set or matched the top end of the market with his prior hires. Hell, while I don’t care for Buzz Williams, he was at least an established P5 coach.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

Sure he brought in a coach at a salary that will be in the bottom half of the league and was making $500K last year. He grabbed the low hanging fruit. All his other searches were deliberate and he made strong runs at established coaches. He didn’t make that same effort here.


Don't you think the sanctions had anything to do with it.

This same coach was wanted by other sec teams.

South carolina wanted him.
Missou hired a mid major at the same exact salary.

Who did you think he was going to get?
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9535 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

South carolina wanted him.
Missou hired a mid major at the same exact salary


So we’re shopping in the same price range as Mizzou and South Carolina, you’ve just made my point.

These programs have been mediocre at best over the last 5 years. With the exception of South Carolina’s 2017 run as an 8 seed, neither of these teams have done anything, and your justifying our hire by comparing it to these schools!?!!

Sanctions were an issue, but you offer enough money and a long enough contract and you could have pulled a more established coach.

ETA. the fact that McMahon came here over South Carolina with potential sanctions should tell you all you need to know about that program. Yet you want to use SC as a barometer to justify the hire…
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 10:12 pm
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15775 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:15 pm to
Barkley just commented about 'nova...they compete under the rim, very disciplined, fundamentally sound and deliberate-they don't beat themselves-you have to beat them.....this is what I desire for LSU Basketball and not some streaky circus
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9535 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:23 pm to
Jay Wright has also had 2 Top 10 recruiting classes in the last 4 years…

He isn’t doing it with 3 stars.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15775 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:29 pm to
And given the lack of court discipline exhibited by WW's teams I will give the new guy a chance....when did LSU ever play smart under WW?

'nova was a case in point and not all 16 remaining teams can boast with such classes BUT they are there and darn near every one plays balanced basketball as good coaches understand how imperative it is
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70764 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:30 pm to
But Houston, Tech and Arky don’t have any elite recruits and only a couple low end top 100 guys on the roster, some aren’t even playing yet.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70764 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:32 pm to
Houston doesn’t have a single top 100 guy playing for them.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9535 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:36 pm to
Okay. You still have to have dudes to be successful. What part of that is not clear.

I get it you want to knock Wade because somehow you think a coach who took over a 10 win team and put us in 4 NCAAT’s is not a good coach, but for crying out loud try to stay on topic. I’m talking about MM’s ability to recruit.

ETA. Jay Wright is also a HOF coach, when combined with elite talent, yeah, he’s going to be there every year.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 10:41 pm
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9535 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:39 pm to
Didn’t realize that about Houston. That’s impressive.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15775 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:43 pm to
I'm not the one preaching star studded squads.....am talking about competence in being able to construct an approach to coaching that values balance and being fundamentally sound.
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