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re: Update: Collins to speak with BR police after draft

Posted on 4/30/15 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 6:47 pm to
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If I'm completely innocent I'd have hired a good attorney by now and would be screaming bloody murder that I got screwed, If it was my child I would be at the hospital trying to take care of that baby. If I had a relationship with that woman I would be giving the police all the help I could finding out who committed the crime. It just doesn't look good for him.

yeah the biggest "wtf" is that he didn't immediately go to BR with his possible child in the hospital after all of this

this is a while before the police supposedly were trying to question him...and if he came to BR he could have hired Boren to handle that for him while he checked in on the baby.

now on the flip side, this is an extreme situation and i can see him just making mistakes due to both the extreme nature of his position (waiting on the Draft, which few of us get to participate in) and the murder in Baton Rouge. the problem is that the potential mistakes play into the "rae carruth" narrative, so it's just a bunch of shite

shitty situation all around

but like i said earlier on the MSB...no matter waht, the mother and baby are having a worse week than la'el collins no matter what
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 6:48 pm to
This is such bullshite! He's losing so much money!
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 6:53 pm to
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According to Jason La Canfora, La'el and his attorney went to police today and were turned away because the police told him he isn't a suspect and they would get back to them.

see, everyone? this is exactly why you've all been so full of shite with your "I've got a feeling" and "something doesn't add up" bullshite. (not directed at you, Shaft)

also, my humble observation: his request to be dropped out of the draft and included in the supplemental draft seems like something he and his agent/attorney would do only if they knew he would not be considered a suspect and had no hand in any wrong-doing. if there were a chance he could get in heavy trouble, that would likely happen before the supplemental draft, so he wouldn't be draftable then, either. and, if he were guilty of something, it would be in his best interest to go ahead and be drafted no matter what, because he'd probably not get another chance to be drafted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 6:55 pm to
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see, everyone? this is exactly why you've all been so full of shite with your "I've got a feeling" and "something doesn't add up" bullshite. (not directed at you, Shaft)

the BRPD denying an interview today means nothing. literally nothing.

the fact that they say he's not a suspect means almost nothing...if he was a publicly-acknowledged suspect, he'd be in jail. otherwise? irrelevant

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his request to be dropped out of the draft and included in the supplemental draft seems like something he and his agent/attorney would do only if they knew he would not be considered a suspect and had no hand in any wrong-doing. if there were a chance he could get in heavy trouble, that would likely happen before the supplemental draft,

this assumption is where you're wrong. a well-built alibi and an obstructionist defense attorney can stall an investigation for a long time

Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 6:59 pm to
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SlowFlowPro

so, what you're saying is that it is possible that he is a suspect and showed up to speak with police, but they turned him away? how often do police turn suspected murderers away from walking in and asking to speak with them?
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this assumption is where you're wrong. a well-built alibi and an obstructionist defense attorney can stall an investigation for a long time

that is completely irrelevant to my point. if a "well-built alibi and an obstructionist defense attorney" have stalled the investigation out to the time of the supplemental draft, he is no better off then as he is now.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 7:02 pm
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31190 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:00 pm to
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ah the biggest "wtf" is that he didn't immediately go to BR with his possible child in the hospital after all of this


It's only a WTF moment if it is possibly his child. For all we know, he hasn't slept with this woman in a year or more so he MAY know for certain that it's not his child.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:01 pm to
you don't just get to show up at the police station and say you're there for an interview. the police control that 100%

we don't even know if the detectives on the case were available or at the police station when he went

hell, if he is a suspect, the last thing they want to do is make the key interview based on his rules. they're going to create disruption so that they are in control and set the rules. why would they give up their leverage in this situation?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:01 pm to
Carruth had a previous child that he was neglecting his court ordered duties for. at least with him, there was a precedent of not wanting a child despite what he was legally obligated to provide. Collins would be way out of left field.
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:04 pm to
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you don't just get to show up at the police station and say you're there for an interview. the police control that 100%

we don't even know if the detectives on the case were available or at the police station when he went

hell, if he is a suspect, the last thing they want to do is make the key interview based on his rules. they're going to create disruption so that they are in control and set the rules. why would they give up their leverage in this situation?

they announced they'd been trying to speak to him, as of monday. are you saying that they say "we want to speak to La'el Collins" in the national media and then try to push back against him doing exactly what they said they were publicly asking him to do?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:06 pm to
when they were trying to get him to come to BR, he was not represented by Jim Boren. he stalled, evaded the cops, and is now lawyered up

the response from BRPD is going to change based on that. you think they're going to treat him the same? naw

that's how this works. it's a game.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:12 pm to
Update: Collins to speak with BR police after draft

when they were trying to get him to come to BR

was not represented


he stalled, evaded the cops, and is now lawyered up

k, draft is when?
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:12 pm to
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when they were trying to get him to come to BR

he was in BR till Tuesday morning, when he flew to Chicago. the tweet about him went out at 2:26pm Tuesday and BRPD said they'd been trying to contact him at or around 4:45pm. WTF are you talking about?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:13 pm to
just started. winston went #1
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:14 pm to
I still cannot stand FSU
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:32 pm to
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You like that a woman was murdered because it might benefit your favorite pro football team?


Were you born this way you frickstick?
Posted by deepdeltatiger
Myrtle Grove
Member since Aug 2007
1001 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:47 pm to
If I'm innocent I fly back to BR and face the fire out in front of the draft. I have an alibi and I read the cops the riot act. If I'm innocent and this bullshite is costing me millions and I know the consequence's two days before the draft, you would be hearing from me. I'm calling channel 8 news, ESPN whoever I can talk to so my story gets out there. It's to late now. It's a crying shame but it is what it is.
Posted by hbuc88
San Antonio
Member since Dec 2009
1174 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:51 pm to
If I'm innocent I fly back to BR and face the fire out in front of the draft. I have an alibi and I read the cops the riot act. If I'm innocent and this bull shite is costing me millions and I know the consequence's two days before the draft, you would be hearing from me. I'm calling channel 8 news, ESPN whoever I can talk to so my story gets out there. It's to late now. It's a crying shame but it is what it is.
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Good point. Beeline it to BR immediately. Hold a press conference, set up interviews with local station, ESPN, and whoever else will have me.
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:57 pm to
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If I'm innocent I fly back to BR and face the fire out in front of the draft. I have an alibi and I read the cops the riot act. If I'm innocent and this bullshite is costing me millions and I know the consequence's two days before the draft, you would be hearing from me. I'm calling channel 8 news, ESPN whoever I can talk to so my story gets out there. It's to late now. It’s a crying shame but it is what it is.


BAM, and there in lies the issue. I would be going ape shite knowing millions are on the line. I would be doing everything to clear my name. His agent needs his arse kicked! I would be all over the airways clearing my name if I were innocent. Hey, wait a second, hmmmm, Maybe he is not innocent!!!!!!!
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
3113 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:13 pm to
And there was where he would have been drafted. Possibly many had him higher
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19187 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:44 pm to
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quote:

I'm not being questioned without a lawyer. Ever.


So if your wife is murdered (and you had nothing to do with it) and the police want to talk to you, you aren't talking to them without a lawyer? Really?
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