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re: Update: Davin Cotton has removed his name from the Transfer Portal!

Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:55 pm to
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Nobody ever slams Aranda for his abysmal recruiting, but he’s the lead recruiter for the DL!!! Wake up!


He’s the head recruiter now?

So it’s not the DL coach as a position coach
Or the HC as the head of the team

The lead recruiter is the head of the defense.

What’s O’s job again?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:56 pm to
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Bingo!!!! Nobody ever slams Aranda for his abysmal recruiting, but he’s the lead recruiter for the DL!!! Wake up!


Roche finch boys are back



You can frick right off.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:57 pm to
Make an arguement that Aranda is #1 recruiter for DL.

Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:01 pm to
So you're saying that Aranda has no say in his defensive line. Man you are fricking high.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:03 pm to
flawed arguement assumes we didn’t miss on any DL recruits and Aranda got everyone he wanted

How many times did we hear that was the HCs call when people point out Onhas been recruiting DL for LSU since 2015.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 6:04 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36971 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:05 pm to
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We don't need JUCO's in 2020. The D line situation is overstated.
It's not even a "situation".

We are solid and have 2 4 star DL's committed for 2020 already, and will likely pull in 3-4 four+ star DL's in that class.

Our big problem in 2020 may be transferring to a new QB, and we will have quality depth at that position as well. With all of these drama queens at LSU maybe should have a drag show at halftime.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:10 pm to
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an arguement that Aranda is #1 recruiter for DL.



I don't have to make an argument for it sammy it's his defense. There is no shortage of Dline.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:11 pm to
It’s Os team and Meatball’s DL.

So why Aranda and not O or Meatball?

We have a shortage of elite DEs.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 6:13 pm
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:13 pm to
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So you're saying that Aranda has no say in his defensive line. Man you are fricking high.
That's the best you got? Really?

Yeah. Let's blame Aranda. He isn't doing enough by running one of the best defenses in the country, pulling in top LB talent year after year, and being the primary coach behind LSU's first Butkus award winner.

Or are you saying that Coach O isn't doing a good enough job so he needs a proven coach like Aranda to step in and do his job for him?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:14 pm to
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It’s Os team and Meatball’s DL.

So why Aranda and not O or Meatball?

See what I mean. Doesn’t really make sense




You're insane. it's Aranda's defense do you honestly think there would be players on it that he didn't approve of. If you say yes any credibility you might have is out the window. its teetering right now.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:20 pm to
Different conversation.

If you don’t understand there is a difference between aranda approving of players and Aranda being most responsible for recruiting them than we can’t have this conversation.

Aranda probably likes all our players. We wouldn’t offer them if we didn’t like them. Album do you think they’re the only players he liked? Do you think there aren’t any DL out there that he didn’t like better that O didn’t like better that we just couldn’t get to come to LSU?

Do you honestly think if O liked a 5* DL it’s up to Aranda to approve, or he’s really not agreeing with his boss, who is an expert on DLmen?

If we keep having this conversations it’s going to be hard to give O credit for anything.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 6:22 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:21 pm to
More to come, we've gotta get down to 85.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12417 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:24 pm to
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any credibility you might have is out the window.
You talking about someone else's credibility is priceless.

Coach O works with the defensive line in practice. He's the one who decided to promote Meatball from a grad assistant instead of hiring an actual coach. He's a career defensive line coach who prides himself in his ability to recruit and develop players. You trying to shift the blame off of him is a joke.

But if Coach O isn't the primary person behind the DL, then what does Coach O bring to the table? He isn't like the other top coaches in the SEC. Saban, Jimbo, Mullen, Kirby, Gus, Muschamp. They all specialize and coach one side of the ball. We all know Aranda handles the defense. You just said it yourself. And we all hope Coach O is in a major player in the offensive scheme. So what does that leave...recruiting? The other SEC coaches don't seem to have a issue recruiting. It's not like he's head and shoulders above them in that department.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 6:27 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71181 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:31 pm to
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It’s Os team and Meatball’s DL.

So why Aranda and not O or Meatball?

We have a shortage of elite DEs.

I’ll play devil’s advocate. Why not all three? We cast plenty of blame on Chavis when he was here and after he left for his poor recruiting on the line, along with Brick Haley and Miles. His specialty was LBs and we all know he wasn’t fond of recruiting.

Can they not all share the blame? Or is Aranda off limits from any criticism whatsoever. He’s still one of the best at his job in football but he does seem to be somewhat lacking in the recruiting department. Ultimately Orgeron is responsible for the entire team, Aranda for the defense, and “meatball” for the line. So ultimately each are, at least in part, responsible for the defensive line.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 6:52 pm
Posted by 1723lale
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
2231 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:31 pm to
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 6:33 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:32 pm to
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You trying to shift the blame off of him is a joke



There is no blame. There is no depth problem along the Dline
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14837 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:32 pm to
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Not shocking you would have this take. You seem like a highly educated person.



I support payin these player, dog. They the ones doin all the wizzork. You gots coaches making 10 million cheddah and them maf’ks come and go from school to school as they please.

Seems to me you might want to take a step back and anatalize yo own shizzit. You coming at this from a selfish perception.

Don’t toss out no free education argument cause that shite ain’t nowhere close to being worth the price they be charging for it.

Don’t be a punk bitch. The world already has enough of them maf’ks. Know’m sayin.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:36 pm to
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More to come, we've gotta get down to 85


Yeah I hope they melt this hard over every one of them.

I guarantee every one of them will be O's fault and he just let's them go. They were going to be major contributors but O screwed it up.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36971 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:36 pm to
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I’ll play devil’s advocate. Why not all three? We cast plenty of blame on Chavis when he was here and after he left for his poor recruiting on the line, along with Brick Haley and Miles.

Can they not all share the blame? Or is Canada off limits from any criticism whatsoever. He’s still one of the best at his job in football but he does seem to be somewhat lacking in the recruiting department. Ultimately Orgeron is responsible for the entire team, Canada for the defense, and “meatball” for the line. So ultimately each are, at least in part, responsible for the defensive line.




I agree. It is Canada's fault.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:36 pm to
We have a lot more WRs than 4* DEs.

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