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re: UGA complaints remind me of.....
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:16 pm to biglego
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:16 pm to biglego
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Apparently bad calls, even numerous ones throughout a game, have no bearing on the final outcome because any team, naturally, can just just score 50 points and overcome the officiating.
We didn't need to score 50, just 10 or 7 more and yes, we could/should have been able to do that in spite of any bad calls.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:21 pm to LikeKnightsofOld
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From 06 Auburn, don't forget about the completion to Hester on 4th down in Auburn territory down inside their 35 that was reviewed, clearly a catch for a 1st down, but overturned to be incomplete
would not need to be reviewed if Hester does not drop the ball.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:34 pm to xiv
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I don't have a rulebook handy, but I'm under the impression that if you exit the tackle box and throw it beyond the line of scrimmage, there can be no grounding call. I'm also under the impression that the UGA quarterback did these two things.
I think what has most people upset is........it wasnt even a "throw". The guy was being spun to the ground so he launched the ball like a discus thrower. His head was actually turned up and back to his 8 o'clock when he released it. The UGA QB did everything he could short of kicking it with his foot because he had nothing to loose. Whether it was a sack or grounding it still would have the same results. At least this way, by some miracle, he still had a chance for either a bad no call or the ball getting past the LOS and in a recievers prox.
In a way, the spirit of the rule was still broken. I know that doesnt matter, but I think it is one cause of confusion and anger.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:34 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:Or if we'd converted on the 3rd and one on the previous play.
would not need to be reviewed if Hester does not drop the ball.
The refs should never have been in a position to make that call.
This post was edited on 10/6/09 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:38 pm to H-Town Tiger
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We didn't need to score 50, just 10 or 7 more and yes, we could/should have been able to do that in spite of any bad calls.
Many of those bad calls/no calls/over turns stalled a lot of drives and scoring opportunities.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:39 pm to McChowder
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Many of those failures to convert on 3rd down stalled a lot of drives and scoring opportunities.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:42 pm to xiv
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Or if we'd converted on the 3rd and one on the previous play.
either way, its 2 opportunities that LSU controlled.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:46 pm to McChowder
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Many of those bad calls/no calls/over turns stalled a lot of drives and scoring opportunities.
Teams run 50-60 plays, how many bad calls were there? Why do those bad calls mean LSU can't convert on the next play? On one of the non PI calls the ball was in fact tipped, so if there was no PI, the WR would not have caught the ball anyway.
This post was edited on 10/6/09 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:56 pm to xiv
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Many of those failures to convert on 3rd down stalled a lot of drives and scoring opportunities
Right, thats the same as failing to convert because of consistant bad calls.
You would have a point if Auburn had to deal with those obsticles as well............but this was a one sided cluster that handycaped the Tigers for 4 quarters.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:59 pm to McChowder
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Right, thats the same as failing to convert because of consistant bad calls
no its not the same, failing to convert on numerous opportunities causes teams to lose games.
3 or 4 (at most) questionable calls does not.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 9:04 pm to xiv
Maybe Georgia was pulling the same kind of mind tricks they pulled in 2007 against Florida?
Posted on 10/6/09 at 9:06 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Teams run 50-60 plays, how many bad calls were there? Why do those bad calls mean LSU can't convert on the next play? On one of the non PI calls the ball was in fact tipped, so if there was no PI, the WR would not have caught the ball anyway.
You may run 50-60 plays in a game but of those, there may only be 11 or so 3rd down attempts that are key to sustaining drives. Lets say that normally you average a high percentage of 3rd down convertions. lets say %50 percent. That means that 5-6 of those 3rd downs are critical.
What does it mean then if 3 of those 5 third down conversions were taken away from bad calls?
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On one of the non PI calls the ball was in fact tipped
The ball was tipped AFTER contact was made. If you dont see anything wrong with that, then maybe you should imagine what it would look like every down field throw to have recievers tackled as the ball was throw but contact ruled legal because a saftey was able to come in after and either intercept or bat down.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 9:16 pm to xiv
holy frick i love this thread
just reading the 1st page is hilarious that any of those people are talking shite about another team's fans bitching (which btw no one on this board and most people aren't).
just reading the 1st page is hilarious that any of those people are talking shite about another team's fans bitching (which btw no one on this board and most people aren't).
Posted on 10/6/09 at 9:18 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
LSU fans whine, bitch, and complain more than any fanbase in the history of sports. Esp about refs and sometimes about perceived lack of respect and ESPN hate.
Scientific fact.
Scientific fact.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 9:20 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Oh yeah, the thing that beat LSU in 2006 was continuing to run up the middle on first and 2nd down for a loss of 2 practically every time for 3.5 quarters.
Course LSU fans would much rather wah wah about refs and so forth.
Course LSU fans would much rather wah wah about refs and so forth.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 9:24 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Excessive celebration was called on both teams. UGA in fact fielded the KO at a more favorable spot than did LSU.
UGA has no room to bitch. Both teams were penalized equally for that infraction. That was not the case in our game with Auburn.
Sure, we didnt play very well agaisnt the plainsmen, but the refs were the deciding factor because of NUMEROUS bad calls/no calls that were entirely one sided.
UGA has no room to bitch. Both teams were penalized equally for that infraction. That was not the case in our game with Auburn.
Sure, we didnt play very well agaisnt the plainsmen, but the refs were the deciding factor because of NUMEROUS bad calls/no calls that were entirely one sided.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 9:27 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Oh yeah, the thing that beat LSU in 2006 was continuing to run up the middle on first and 2nd down for a loss of 2 practically every time for 3.5 quarters.
that definitely had a major contribution to the game, and was very dumb on LSU's part. But we had about 5 drives end because of terrible officiating, and on yalls only touchdown drive their was a missed forced fumble by Laron landry. Don't act like the refs didn't hand it to you. The problem is LSU should have won the game either way.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 9:34 pm to McChowder
quote:So why wasn't the fact that LSU didn't play very well the deciding factor? Why do you just pick and choose which factor is the "deciding" factor?
Sure, we didnt play very well agaisnt the plainsmen, but the refs were the deciding factor because of NUMEROUS bad calls/no calls that were entirely one sided.
People who blame refs tend to be losers.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 9:46 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:just curious....how many calls do you think this guy had to alter to change the game? Every call in the game or just several key plays that benefited one team? And if it was no big deal and just something a team should overcome then why involve the FBI?
no its not the same, failing to convert on numerous opportunities causes teams to lose games.
3 or 4 (at most) questionable calls does not.
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