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re: UGA committed a backcourt violation on the game winner

Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:21 pm to
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If that’s not a violation fine but that’s not what the rules posted explains.
I agree. The rule about jumping in the air doesnt even apply here because both his feet weren't in the front court when he caught the ball.

edit: did you mean the jump in air rule or another one?

This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 9:24 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:22 pm to
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That’s a bad pic can’t tell anything or if it was even the play in question.


You can see the LSU score and the time remaining.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:23 pm to
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Golfer


See my post. Im curious if the same would apply.

I reffed for a few years. Never went past JV level. I also coached high school for a few years. I don't think I fully understood the back court until AFTER I stopped Reffing and apparently I still didn't fully understand it.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:24 pm to
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From the position he caught it, if he would have brought the other foot in the back court, as well as the ball...he would have been back court.


Nope.

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If he would have had both feet in the front court, and for whatever reason, jumped in the air and caught the ball (with both feet off the ground), landing both feet in the back court after the catch..it would have been back court.


Not if he’s the first offensive player to touch it on the throw in.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:25 pm to
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Let's say the person that is going to catch the inbound pass had a heel on the out of bounds line. He jumps in the air to catch the inbounds pass, and then lands in bounds.

Same thing applies? He has no established position on the court because the ball hasn't been touched yet?
No, the out of bounds line is treated differently than a backcourt violation. You have to have both feet established in bounds before touching the ball legally. Jumping in the air doesnt reestablish your foot inbounds.


ps - sorry, i need to STFU and quit answering golfer's questions
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 9:26 pm
Posted by MIKEDATIGER
AUSTIN
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:25 pm to
Multiple pushes in the back on the boards led to a rebounding advantage for UGA
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:26 pm to
thats not the post I was talking about. I follow what you are saying on that.

See the post about the player being OOB before jumping in. Posted on page 2 I believe.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:29 pm to
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No, the out of bounds line is treated differently than a backcourt violation. You have to have both feet established in bounds before touching the ball legally. Jumping in the air doesnt reestablish your foot inbounds


Got it. I thought this was the case, but I thought the mid court line played the same role on a take in.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:29 pm to
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Let's say the person that is going to catch the inbound pass had a heel on the out of bounds line. He jumps in the air to catch the inbounds pass, and then lands in bounds. Same thing applies? He has no established position on the court because the ball hasn't been touched yet?


No. He’s still out of bounds.

Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44860 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:34 pm to
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If he had one foot in front court, and one in back court when he caught the ball he still had front court status.
No violation, he would be considered back court since not all 3 things were established in front court when he caught the ball (ball + 2 feet).

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From the position he caught it, if he would have brought the other foot in the back court, as well as the ball...he would have been back court.
No violation, he could bring the other 2 things into the backcourt no problem since 1 of his feet was never established in front court.

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If he would have had both feet in the front court, and for whatever reason, jumped in the air and caught the ball (with both feet off the ground), landing both feet in the back court after the catch..it would have been back court.
No violation, you can do that. You could even land straddling the line and then dribble the ball way into the backcourt and still be legal. (keep in mind the jump in air rule is only for throw ins, not a pass from a teammate or something like that).
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:36 pm to
Yeah I got that. I just didn't know FC or BC status wasn't determined until the ball was touched by the offense on an in bounds pass. Thats what threw me off.


Basically the only way you can get a back court violation on that side in bounds pass is to catch it with both feet, and the ball in the front court, and then cross into the back court.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 9:38 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44860 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:37 pm to
Ah gotcha.. goodnight
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