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re: UGA committed a backcourt violation on the game winner

Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:01 pm to
Yes. By an offensive player.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:02 pm to
OP doesn’t know the rules.
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:05 pm to
The ball and both feet must be in front court at same time to establish front court. If any of those 3 things is in the backcourt then you’re still in backcourt and can bring the other foot and ball fully into backcourt if you want. There can never be a backcourt violation unless front court is established (ball + both feet in front court).
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:07 pm to
Thought the rule said if an offensive player touches the ball in the front court? He touched the ball in the front court he didn’t jump he wasn’t straddling the mid court line he was on the floor, touched the ball in the front court and brought it to the back court. I didn’t read anything about having to establish 2 feet in the front court first it just said touch the ball or you can be in the air and catch it in the front court then land in the backcourt. It doesn’t say establish 2 feet.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:08 pm to
Offensive possession has already been established by what the rule says you don’t have to establish it twice.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:09 pm to
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He touched the ball in the front court


No he didn’t. He had not established himself in the frontcourt. One foot was in the backcourt.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:10 pm to
Yes he did and offensive possession had already been established. It was Uga ball possession was never in question he didn’t have to establish possession. Read the rule carefully.
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:11 pm to
The in the air rule means if both feet are in front court and you jump in the air to catch the ball you can land one or both feet in backcourt without violation. The UGA player only had 1 foot in front court so it didn’t matter if he jumped or not. At the time he took possession of the ball one foot was in backcourt so he is considered to be backcourt and can bring ball and other foot backcourt as well.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:11 pm to
So, by that same logic on an inbounds pass (on a dead ball)...

Let's say the person that is going to catch the inbound pass had a heel on the out of bounds line. He jumps in the air to catch the inbounds pass, and then lands in bounds.

Same thing applies? He has no established position on the court because the ball hasn't been touched yet?
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:12 pm to
No none of his feet were backcourt when he caught the ball.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

Yes he did and offensive possession had already been established. It was Uga ball possession was never in question he didn’t have to establish possession. Read the rule carefully


You don’t even understand possession. So I’m done here.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:12 pm to
Sorry you can’t read
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:13 pm to
The throw in doesn’t already have front court established. If that was true then you could never catch a throw in in the backcourt.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

No none of his feet were backcourt when he caught the ball.


I posted the still shot of when he touched the ball. He’s got one foot on either side of midcourt.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:14 pm to
Earlier you said he was straddling mid court. Now you say both feet were in front court.??
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47633 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:17 pm to
Not taking about the throw in proving possession. The rule says if possession is in question example tip pass or loose ball, this wasn’t the case ugas possession wasn’t in question. Now if the rule is he can have at least one foot in the front court on the ground catch the ball and his momentum carry him backcourt and it’s not a violation fine but the establishing possession argument is out of context the way it’s being used in this thread.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:19 pm to
I corrected the statement I said I misspoke. What I meant was one foot was clearly in the front court he caught the ball while in stride and ended up back court. If that’s not a violation fine but that’s not what the rules posted explains.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

the rule is he can have at least one foot in the front court on the ground catch the ball and his momentum carry him backcourt and it’s not a violation fine


That is the rule.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:20 pm to
That’s a bad pic can’t tell anything or if it was even the play in question.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:21 pm to
Ok
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