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re: Transfer portal policy fix

Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:07 am to
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4499 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:07 am to
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School is not a career, nor a professional job.


Tell that to the multi-billion dollar college football industry. Coaches can promise high school kids all the bullshite in the world to get them to sign and bolt the day after signing day to go make more money. Everyone had the freedom to jump from school to school except the players. The players are literally the product on the field everyone is paying for. I have ZERO issue with a player transferring to a school if their first choice isn't a good fit. I do agree that the current portal rules are a little too open. I'd like to see some restrictions. However, that might need to be something done on a conference level (i.e. the SEC could forbid schools from accepting transfers from a conference rival, etc). There is nothing wrong with someone wanting a better fit for himself. However, he shouldn't be able to bring the playbook to someone on next season's schedule.
Posted by duboisd
Palestine, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
2504 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:11 am to
Making them sit out a year would discourage the free agency that has taken over college football.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4499 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:18 am to
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The thing we use to teach kids was to finish what you started. If you don’t want to honor a commitment, you can leave, but sitting out a season is the penalty.
There are penalties in life, this is a teaching moment.

Explain how and why this should be different for an athlete versus a coach?

It pisses me off to see our players like our DBs go to our rivals. But Coaches don't honor commitments either. I love the Brian Kelly hire for LSU. But let's be real, he was literally out recruiting for Notre Dame when the news broke about him taking the LSU job. How can we bitch about "kids" and "commitment" and tell them that they are the only ones being held to that standard?
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:58 am to
Separate the NIL from the portal by requiring a 1 yr cooling period on NIL deals following a transfer
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
10250 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:16 am to
Or if your getting paid you hv to honor your contract first, if not yes you hv to sit out a year. If not getting paid you can transfer without hving to sit out.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47497 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:24 am to
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Less freedom and more regulation?


If I sign an offer letter to go work for a company and they pay my expenses to relocate and give me a sign-on bonus, I would almost certainly be obligated to work for the company for at least a year(sometimes longer) or I owe them that money back.

401k and IRA Vesting periods are used in the same manner. They discourage employees from leaving before the company sees a ROI from the employee.

If players wanna get paid real money, real world rules should apply.




This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 11:35 am
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17726 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:44 am to
Ah, here comes the Boomer 101 “commitment” speech.

Keep on thinking it’s that simple with no regard for the athlete. Makes you look like you’re on top of things.
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12094 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:49 am to
The problem is that with the portal, and now NIL, recruiting never really ends. Any freshman who goes to school A can be told by School B that they have a shoe deal worth $500k if they will transfer over. As it is now, they just have to hop in the portal and poof! Perhaps they could make a rule that any NIL deal requires a 3 year commitment to stay at the university, and if they don't stay, they have to pay it back. Or, just make it where they have to sit out a year like it used to be. This stuff is getting ridiculous. But the genie is out of the bottle, so I'm not sure how you can walk it back.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17726 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:49 am to
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real world rules should apply.


Not everyone applies the same “real world rules,” nor should they.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17726 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:50 am to
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Any freshman who goes to school A can be told by School B that they have a shoe deal worth $500k if they will transfer over.


Nope.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3179 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:50 am to
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The thing we use to teach kids was to finish what you started. If you don’t want to honor a commitment, you can leave, but sitting out a season is the penalty.
There are penalties in life, this is a teaching moment.


The “teaching moment” is that the majority of kids in Top Tier conference programs who enter the portal (55-60%) wind up at worse schools and worse situations.

There is a serious penalty for a lot of kids who enter the portal. Most wind up in a lower tier program or no program at all. There are serious consequences for most of these kids for “not finishing what they started”.

There’s nothing wrong with the portal. The only thing wrong for some of you is that you want to restrict the freedom of players.
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:02 pm to
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The only thing wrong for some of you is that you want to restrict the freedom of players.


Telling them they have to sit a year if they transfer out before RS JR or SR year is not restricting their freedom. They still have the choice to do whatever they want.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 12:29 pm
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6711 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:06 pm to

There is no fix…..kids today do not know the meaning of COMMITMENT

“The only easy day was yesterday”
Posted by LB41
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
90 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:14 pm to
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There’s nothing wrong with the portal. The only thing wrong for some of you is that you want to restrict the freedom of players.

It's not restricting freedom. Pro football players can't just leave a team whenever they want. They can demand a trade or sit out, but the team doesn't have to honor the trade request.
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3705 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:26 pm to
Portal should only be available to upperclassmen.
Posted by SnoopChizzle
Right here
Member since Sep 2009
449 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:34 pm to
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This is one that makes more sense than most. He could probably go to a FCS school or lower if he is looking to get a scholarship and actually have a chance to play.


You don’t have to portal when you drop down to FBS
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33461 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:36 pm to
I like your idea with the exception of a coaching change. If the coach you came in with gets fired/leaves you should be free to move on.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:46 pm to
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Ah, here comes the Boomer 101 “commitment” speech.
what's with all the "Boomer" name-calling on this board.

You know what a Boomer is? Someone who's been around the block a few times, and has enough life experiences to make calmer, reasoned, and hopefully wiser, decisions on most issues than young folks who don't have years of experience in the real world.

And yes, Boomers were kids once too -- we haven't forgotten that.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
5042 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:22 pm to
Until the NCAA restricts current coaches under contract from going to other schools, then why should players be restricted from leaving? If you want players remaining at their schools, then make the coaches honor and fulfill their contracts and stay as well.

So under your plan. Joe Burrow would have had to sit out after transferring to LSU from OSU.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36544 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Until the NCAA restricts current coaches under contract from going to other schools, then why should players be restricted from leaving?


Coaches do have contracts.
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