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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley

Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:19 pm to
The ball moves in that shot. Screenshot doesn’t help to say one way or the other.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:21 pm to
yeah you have to watch the play, there is not way it couldnt have touched the ground.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:25 pm to
A screenshot doesn’t show how the ball moves after that point. They showed it on the broadcast, it clearly hit the ground while neither player had control. The craziest thing is how could they rule that a UT completion at all...?
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10170 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:30 pm to
Stingley was out of bounds before he had possession anyway. Not sure why this keeps getting brought up. It was not a reception or interception.
Posted by chewstick
Member since Oct 2009
1410 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:33 pm to
Yea i think he was out of bounds regardless. Great play
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39100 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:34 pm to
It was called a reception.

Video evidence showed conclusively that it was NOT a reception.

Video evidence was inconclusive as to whether it was intercepted or incomplete.

Ruling of incompletion was proper.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118665 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Clearly incomplete.


I must have looked at a different angle. Can you screen shot the angle where the ball touched the ground?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:52 pm to
there's not one, but if you actually watch the replay, its physically impossible for that ball to NOT touch the ground.

IMHO
Posted by LegendaryOutlaw
Member since Apr 2019
285 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 2:21 pm to
After watching in link, it does seem to bounce off the ground. On the view from the near sideline, I never saw that shot on Tv, and was convinced otherwise until that shot.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12054 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 2:42 pm to
It was not an interception.




But should have NEVER been called a completion. That was horseshite.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26615 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 2:43 pm to
Top Billin does a nice job.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26615 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

It was not definitive that ball hit the ground. It was dark and blocked by the WR knee and you could assume it hit the ground but there was no conclusive evidence it hit the ground. I’ve watch the replay 10 times.



You're watching the wrong thing. The ref explained during the game that the reason for the incomplete ruling is that Johnson was out of bounds while touching the ball BEFORE Stingley was able to gain clear possession of the ball.

I believe that is the correct call. How it was ever ruled a completed pass on the field is beyond me. Johnson CLEARLY never had more than one hand on it after his initial touch of it.

Had the play happened away from the sideline, I believe it would have been ruled an interception.

Great play nonetheless.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10434 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

It touched before then. Other camera angle from the field side caught it.


I guess my TV did not get that angle cuz I never saw that. Bad call.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42517 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

ball pretty clearly hit the ground on one of the camera views


Not on any view that was broadcast. Just finished looking at the play again and there was only one view where it was possible to opine that it may have touched the ground - if you 'saw' it you must have x-ray vision.

Now - I'm ok with the incomplete decision because it was not clear when total control of the ball was obtained - and one or both of the players had touch out of bounds prior to demonstrated complete control,

It was an interception - no doubt about that - except for possible out of bounds = hard to tell.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:03 pm to
The ball hit the ground. It was an incomplete pass.
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