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jimbeam
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
The ball moves in that shot. Screenshot doesn’t help to say one way or the other.


SportTiger1
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
yeah you have to watch the play, there is not way it couldnt have touched the ground.


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BayouBengals18
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
A screenshot doesn’t show how the ball moves after that point. They showed it on the broadcast, it clearly hit the ground while neither player had control. The craziest thing is how could they rule that a UT completion at all...?


offshoretrash
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
Stingley was out of bounds before he had possession anyway. Not sure why this keeps getting brought up. It was not a reception or interception.


chewstick
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
Yea i think he was out of bounds regardless. Great play


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Penrod
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
It was called a reception.

Video evidence showed conclusively that it was NOT a reception.

Video evidence was inconclusive as to whether it was intercepted or incomplete.

Ruling of incompletion was proper.


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GumboPot
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
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Clearly incomplete.


I must have looked at a different angle. Can you screen shot the angle where the ball touched the ground?


SportTiger1
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
there's not one, but if you actually watch the replay, its physically impossible for that ball to NOT touch the ground.

IMHO


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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
After watching in link, it does seem to bounce off the ground. On the view from the near sideline, I never saw that shot on Tv, and was convinced otherwise until that shot.


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LSUnation78
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
It was not an interception.




But should have NEVER been called a completion. That was horse shite.


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mtntiger
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
Top Billin does a nice job.


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mtntiger
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
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It was not definitive that ball hit the ground. It was dark and blocked by the WR knee and you could assume it hit the ground but there was no conclusive evidence it hit the ground. I’ve watch the replay 10 times.



You're watching the wrong thing. The ref explained during the game that the reason for the incomplete ruling is that Johnson was out of bounds while touching the ball BEFORE Stingley was able to gain clear possession of the ball.

I believe that is the correct call. How it was ever ruled a completed pass on the field is beyond me. Johnson CLEARLY never had more than one hand on it after his initial touch of it.

Had the play happened away from the sideline, I believe it would have been ruled an interception.

Great play nonetheless.


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LSUStar
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
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It touched before then. Other camera angle from the field side caught it.


I guess my TV did not get that angle cuz I never saw that. Bad call.


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ChineseBandit58
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
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ball pretty clearly hit the ground on one of the camera views


Not on any view that was broadcast. Just finished looking at the play again and there was only one view where it was possible to opine that it may have touched the ground - if you 'saw' it you must have x-ray vision.

Now - I'm ok with the incomplete decision because it was not clear when total control of the ball was obtained - and one or both of the players had touch out of bounds prior to demonstrated complete control,

It was an interception - no doubt about that - except for possible out of bounds = hard to tell.


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LSUGrrrl
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re: Top Billin - Derek Stingley
The ball hit the ground. It was an incomplete pass.


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