re: To kneel or not to kneel

A condescending blanket statement. Hmm wonder which side of this topic you're on lol.

Jesus christ.....

I hope not because I will keep my tickets in the cabinet. Not the moment for any kind of protest. If I had an issue the last thing I would want to do is piss off the people who could help me with that issue. JMO

Sure thing. Last year (or season depending how one looks at it) Colin Kaepernick began kneeling during the National Anthem. He felt that due to the injustices and, in some cases, unfair rulings occurring in America against African Americans, that there is an issue within this country that should be addressed, solved, handled, or what ever word you'd like to use.

Of course at this time other groups, BLM being the main one that comes to mind, protested up and down the street or highways. And of course with that you got the good (those who actual wanted to bring media attention to issues that occurred) and the bad (those who were up to no good and used the BLM group as a means to create havoc and destroy). That in its own created controversy and understandably given how it made people say "How can you protest this and that yet you're here destroying this and that."

Colin decided he will protest in his own way. Not one that causes destruction. But one that is silent representing what how he as an African American due to the injustices and unfair treatment of others (for some who may not know his is half black and white) in the states. What Colin isn't saying is that "I don't respect our men and women in uniform". He's saying there is a problem to where a man or woman of any color or not of any color can be shoot or killed by law enforcement either wrongfully or in a "stereotypical" manner that is not okay or warranted. Now im not saying that some people didn't do things that caused their fate to be "determined". But there were and are some situations that could've been avoided, approached differently, looked at from other perspectives, and handled accordingly. And that is the issue at hand. Being shot in the car when reaching for your wallet after telling that officer that you have a registered gun prior is an issue. Failing to follow proper traffic stop procedures resulting in a "concluded" suicide of a woman. Having a gun pointed to your head and being told "If you fricking move i swear to god" before being shot multiple times as two cops had their body weight on you. Being choked out by an officer and trying to say "i can't breath" to later be pronounced dead at the scene. Suffering a spinal injury and then dying in police custody to which nothing apparently happen when being transported to the hospital in that police van just to name a few. Now we can argue about it, who did what and etc. Like i said, its not against those who are cops. But there are some issues out there to where some are being stereotypical, some may require better training, some justices against certain officers should be carried out. End of the day, some situation(s) should be handled better.

Now me being African American, I can full heartily understand where he and others are coming from. There are situations that i've been through that others within this thread will never go through due to the color of my skin or the car that i drive (Adui A6 for the Audi fam). My girlfriend at the time was worried for me, her being primarily caucasian, being put in a situation that might have my life or whatnot at jeopardy.

Sorry for this long book but end of the day, there will be those who agree and those who disagree. And that fine. But at least try to understand. If you can't, well...idk. Guess those who don't agree or feel "Youre not american" or whatnot will feel that way no matter what. In retrospect, we only sing a part of the national anthem. When you get a chance, read the full version. Isn't really a color friendly song. Yet, that was back in the day and the words were shorted for a reason. Other than that, i hoped that answered your question

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Did our national symbols somehow entice their killing? Several had criminal records and weapons btw, but lets forgo that...

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We need American History to be a required subject on all levels of education. I think when you are not taught what this country stands for it creates opportunities for people to protest issues at the wrong time.

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for people to protest issues at the wrong time.

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The wrong time? When is the right time? Protesting injustice, equal rights, or any right honestly is going to be uncomfortable because it goes against the norm. Anyone who does protest will always be the odd man out and you'll never know when that right time will be. Unless you mean the offseason.

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Protesting the treatment of your fellow man and/or woman by law enforcement.

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Most of this is pure bullshite though. Thats my problem. Are there some instances of this? Yes. But same can be said of other races.... theres always going to be smthg someone doesnt like, that doesnt go down like it should, someones gonna screw up.

The black race wants to villify law enforcement but studies have been done that factually show that this is a false narrative. Worry about the factual crime and killings that are done by the black race first before crying wolf over one or two instances.

Thats my problem. Im calling bullshite and you dont like it. Tough. Yall want to act like whites and police are your problem, you're your own problem. Do something to fix that then we can talk.

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Worry about the factual crime and killings that are done by the black race first before crying wolf over one or two instances.

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Well Cole, i really dont care about you thinking i dont like it frankly. Im just letting you know a stance just as you're letting everyone know yours.

As far as your statement, yeah there are crimes committed by african americans but what you're doing is vilifying it. Practically saying "Worry about the crimes yall commit before worrying about being treated unjustly in this or that case". And if thats how you think then trying to understand the standpoint of someone of color, race, sex, ethnicity, or maybe even religion will miss you.

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Yall want to act like whites and police are your problem, you're your own problem. Do something to fix that then we can talk.

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Lol there's no reasoning with you bro. You categorize a whole in a way of stating that we all have this issue with white people when "we all" dont. Like ive said in this thread (i think) and in others, its not about being against america or white people. Its against police brutality.

End of the day, we can just agree to disagree and you can continue to group the whole into one and cast stones.

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You see any irony in this statement??? this is exactly why many dont take this whole protest seriously

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I'm just pointing out what you did. How you worded your statements and your use of "Yall" was a good example of it. But you have your opinion on what you think needs to be done compared to others. This all stemmed from me explaining something to you that you may or may not have got.