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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:01 pm to SeekGreatness
Nope not blind at all
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:01 pm to Madking
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Lol I love the way you guys site things that have zero bearing on our team and don't matter at all and use them as if they're tangible. Btw you're taking about things that happened over a decade ago but totally ignore his record since.
You mean his interim stints at USC and LSU in which two other coaches built the team?
How did O do when he had to build a team? All you can do is go by resume.
Herman might lose 3 or 4 games with Texas this year but you expect him to turn it around based on his past HC experience.
With O you expect the team to get worse not better.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:02 pm to Madking
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Btw you're taking about things that happened over a decade ago but totally ignore his record since.
Your exactly right. PAST, 2005 Miss St. 35-Ole Miss 14
PRESENT 2017 Miss St 37- LSU 7
Much improved...
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:03 pm to boweswi05
News flash O didn't build this team either. Lol he gets no credit when he wins with someone els roster but gets all the blame when he loses with someone els' roster. You guys are amazing.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:04 pm to Madking
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Btw you're taking about things that happened over a decade ago but totally ignore his record since.
Great, that's fine.
Please show me on O's resume where he:
1) Built a team from the ground up
2) Hired coaches that sustained success
3) Installed an overall plan and hired/recruited based off of that plan
4) Successfully was the head coach for at least a few years
5) Successfully managed a football program
If you can show me, I'll gladly forget about Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:04 pm to Madking
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Btw you're taking about things that happened over a decade ago
To put it all in perspective, O still hasn't proven to me that he has what it takes to head coach one of the Nation's Top 5 most valuable programs. The two great coordinator theory always sounded idiotic to me and it died in the fire in Starkville last Saturday night.
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but totally ignore his record since
Ok since you brought it up. O is 2-3 in his last 5 SEC games. Honestly, it's about par for the course for O, and O is essentially matching his comparative tenure at Ole Miss considering the state of the respective programs at the time. Please convince me otherwise. Again, this isn't just one game excuse some LSU fans are using. The first 2 games of this season, LSU had consistent red zone woes, and after 3 games has proven to be the most undisciplined team in the conference. 2-3 in the SEC, undisciplined, more of the same offensive woes, lack of O-lineman depth directly tied to O is not fairing well for your argument. Again, please convince me otherwise on something I'm not seeing.
This post was edited on 9/23/17 at 12:24 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:05 pm to Madking
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Lol he gets no credit when he wins with someone els roster
I gave O full credit for the wins last year and having the team fully prepared in the Cap One game last year. The cap one bowl results led to me projecting 9-3 this year. I thought the forward momentum would have carried over. I feel dumb saying 9-3 now and bit on the Canada hype.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:08 pm to sheek
Lmfao You just did exactly what I accused you of doing and even tried to spin that.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:09 pm to Madking
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News flash O didn't build this team either. Lol he gets no credit when he wins with someone els roster but gets all the blame when he loses with someone els' roster. You guys are amazing.
So you telling me O is supposed to get credit for his interim stints at his jobs since Ole Miss with teams other HC built.
He isn't supposed to take the blame for a team Miles built?
So he gets credit when he wins with someone else players "interim stints". When he loses with someone else players he doesn't get blame for losing?
Which is it?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:10 pm to Madking
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You just did exactly what I accused you of doing and even tried to spin that
What did I spin? 2-3 in the last 5 SEC games is 2-3.. what I am doing is debunking it’s just the one game theory that many LSU fans have used all week.
This post was edited on 9/23/17 at 12:24 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:14 pm to sheek
Well that's a fair projection it's also a very attainable goal this season. Why is it 1 loss has turned into 11? Saturday has been called by many the worst loss in history even though we lost to an 8-5 Auburn team 41-7 (worse) just 3 years ago. That's what most people are so wrong about, nobody's defending what happened Saturday, the more level headed fans are simply saying its 1 loss and it's not nearly the loss some are making it out to be. What's happened is the people who've been after O since he was hired have flooded the rant with anti O propaganda they've taken over and twisted the narrative. I call em ANTIF-Os because they're kin to that way of thinking.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:14 pm to sheek
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What did I spin? 2-5 in the last 5 SEC games is 2-5.
He should just come back with O is Cajun and I don't care how terrible he is as HC.
Be straight up and I will respect any poster.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:15 pm to sheek
You're not debunking anything you're using selective portions of truth to push an agenda. I think you believe people on this site are a lot more ignorant than they really are. And that's insulting to a certain extent.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:15 pm to Slippy
Not a damn thing because they are all powerless bitches.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:17 pm to boweswi05
"Just be straight up and I will respect any poster."
Nothing could he farther from the truth.
Nothing could he farther from the truth.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:20 pm to Madking
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What's happened is the people who've been after O since he was hired have flooded the rant with anti O propaganda they've taken over and twisted the narrative. I call em ANTIF-Os because they're kin to that way of thinking.
Dude most of us on here want nothing more than O to succeed and bring LSU back to where we belong. Among college football elite.
When we got blew out by Miss State it was a reminder to a lot of just how bad the guy first HC stint was.
I still think it was a bad hire and the one loss , I know it was just one loss, but it reaffirmed what we thought of the hire.
I am trying to be as fair as I can.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:21 pm to Madking
A coach’s core evaluation is on wins and loses Particularly in conference play. I am not selecting portions of the truth, I am selecting the fundamental truths. You want to call that cherry picking... be me guest. 2-3 in the last 5 SEC games is just that 2-3. That’s garbage juice.
This post was edited on 9/23/17 at 12:26 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:24 pm to sheek
You asied me to not ignore his record and I simply did just that . I am sorry I am not going to count non conference rent a wins to support your narrative.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:25 pm to boweswi05
I don't agree with the hire either but Ole Miss 10 years ago has nothing to do with Saturdays game I'm sorry there's no logic to it. I'm not sold on O far from it but I'm not going to let 1 loss that had a lot to do with either a hatchet job or the most unbelievable coincidental calls ever allow me to lose my mind. What's most telling in this attack on O is that Aranda hasn't been given any blame and Canada hasn't either. And tyats just cry aching the surface when you breakdown what actually happened. Nobody's even discussing the game objectively it's been nothing but O sucks we've hit rock bottom. Now honestly doesn't that sound irrational and over the top to you?
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