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Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:26 pm to JPLSU1981
I'm going to ignore VC from now on since he knows how old I am & what kind of a degree I have: that makes him wayyy too smart for me. But the Fox reporter who "broke" the rehab story last nite was on at noon & said that TM is now taking classes OL as well as participating in the rehab program. When pushed as to how long a "normal" program lasts, she said that is there is no "normal" but the average can be 28 days or so. She claims to have known TM's adopted father for yrs & that is why she was able to have direct access to the family. She plans to make a trip over to Houston in a few wks & if permitted, see how he is doing. So, if that is the case & the program last 30 days or so, what does he do afterwards, red?
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:28 pm to biglego
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It's just misleading and feeds the ignorance of the masses to call it drug rehab when, if it's just pot, he doesn't need rehab
Just my opinion, NO INSIDE SOURCE, but I believe this is a carefully calculated PR ploy. TR got a lot of publicity, a lot of the spotlight, and I firmly believe he just didn't think he would be kicked off, that he was too good. I think it's pretty smart, jmo. Then again, at the same time, omaha claims 100% that it is only weed.....but something just don't seem right there...so you never know.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:32 pm to VC
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s just misleading and feeds the ignorance of the masses to call it drug rehab when, if it's just pot, he doesn't need rehab. What he might need is counseling on making better decisions. When an obese person won't stop eating big macs, he doesn't go to rehab. Big macs aren't addictive. They're just enjoyable. TM chose to smoke pot bc he enjoys it and the rule against smoking is nonsensical, but he didn't smoke it bc he was addicted.
Sigh. Ignorance.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:33 pm to Keltic Tiger
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I'm going to ignore VC
could not care any less...just fyi...classes have started already online huh??? not that you listen...but be careful of reporters that have no ties to lsu....the JK's of the world are solid though.....
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:33 pm to Keltic Tiger
yeah 28 to 90 days is pretty standard....and after care program will be set up where he still sees counselors etc. (like out patient) but is reintegrated back into society. community service, etc. will be done as well
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:35 pm to adamb0940
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What he might need is counseling on making better decisions
This is the majority of what is done in rehab. Please stop stating your opinions on addiction as if it were fact.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:36 pm to VC
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NO INSIDE SOURCE
So you don't know jack shite.
Like we thought.
Carry on chief.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:41 pm to TheDoc
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So you don't know jack shite.
Like we thought.
Carry on chief.
no wonder you have 78,000 + posts......very, very impressive.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:42 pm to adamb0940
Ignorance you say?
Sorry buddy. But pot aint physically/mentally addictive like you think it is.
Sorry buddy. But pot aint physically/mentally addictive like you think it is.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:47 pm to Rantavious
I was always under the impression that it could be psychologically addicting.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:47 pm to D500MAG
A few more words, then I am done with this thread.
Yes, you can in fact get addicted to cannabis. You can argue this if you feel compelled, but to do so just shows that you have little understanding of addiction, at least from a scientific standpoint. "Addiction" is the layman's term for dependence. Substance "dependence" is simply one of several disorders within the category of "substance abuse disorders" and is a more extreme form of abuse.
The key distinguishing criteria between abuse and dependence is that dependence involves one or more physiological responses that indicate some physical change in brain functioning that extends beyond the time of intoxication. Most people think this only includes withdrawal and ignorantly cite the absence of physical withdrawal as "proof" that marijuana is not addictive. However, most regular users of marijuana will admit to an increase in tolerance for the drug, a need for more of the substance to achieve the same effect. Tolerance is a sign of physiological change that extends beyond the period of intoxication, thus it us a marker of a physiological change that has occurred in response to chronic use of a substance.
Therefore, it is possible for someone to be "addicted" to a substance without displaying signs of physical withdrawal. Now,strong arguments can still be made that people withdraw from marijuana, that it just does not look the same as say alcohol or opiate withdrawal. I have seen many a pothead demonstrate clear signs of increased anxiety,restlessness, sleep disturbance, and stress sensitivity after discontinued regular use.
There is a reason that continued use of marijuana results in thousands of probation and parole revocations all over this country every day and it can't simply be explained away by "he was just stupid, apathetic, etc."
It is apparent to me that TM had a problem with marijuana. I don't know enough to say whether or not he may have been "addicted" to it, but he was at least abusing it. The consequences speak to that. I wish the kid the best, and if he needs help in quitting and making some needed changes to make that possible, then so be it. I hope he gets the help he needs and makes the best of it.
Yes, you can in fact get addicted to cannabis. You can argue this if you feel compelled, but to do so just shows that you have little understanding of addiction, at least from a scientific standpoint. "Addiction" is the layman's term for dependence. Substance "dependence" is simply one of several disorders within the category of "substance abuse disorders" and is a more extreme form of abuse.
The key distinguishing criteria between abuse and dependence is that dependence involves one or more physiological responses that indicate some physical change in brain functioning that extends beyond the time of intoxication. Most people think this only includes withdrawal and ignorantly cite the absence of physical withdrawal as "proof" that marijuana is not addictive. However, most regular users of marijuana will admit to an increase in tolerance for the drug, a need for more of the substance to achieve the same effect. Tolerance is a sign of physiological change that extends beyond the period of intoxication, thus it us a marker of a physiological change that has occurred in response to chronic use of a substance.
Therefore, it is possible for someone to be "addicted" to a substance without displaying signs of physical withdrawal. Now,strong arguments can still be made that people withdraw from marijuana, that it just does not look the same as say alcohol or opiate withdrawal. I have seen many a pothead demonstrate clear signs of increased anxiety,restlessness, sleep disturbance, and stress sensitivity after discontinued regular use.
There is a reason that continued use of marijuana results in thousands of probation and parole revocations all over this country every day and it can't simply be explained away by "he was just stupid, apathetic, etc."
It is apparent to me that TM had a problem with marijuana. I don't know enough to say whether or not he may have been "addicted" to it, but he was at least abusing it. The consequences speak to that. I wish the kid the best, and if he needs help in quitting and making some needed changes to make that possible, then so be it. I hope he gets the help he needs and makes the best of it.
This post was edited on 8/17/12 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:56 pm to LSU Patrick
Posted on 8/17/12 at 3:57 pm to LSU Patrick
VC no one wants to buy what you are selling.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 4:00 pm to Rantavious
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Sorry buddy. But pot aint physically/mentally addictive like you think it is.
Anything can mentally addictive
Posted on 8/17/12 at 4:00 pm to VC
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People are far too hung up on the only 3 strike thing...there is more than meets the eye.
Well what do you expect. All we know about is the third strike and action has been taken. People supposedly in the know will not say what the MORE is about. So how could we?
If you don't want people being hung up on that issue then you are going to have to say more than "there is more"!
Posted on 8/17/12 at 4:05 pm to omegaman66
If VC had any more to give it would be possession with intent. Lol. He said earlier he was just trolling.
Posted on 8/17/12 at 4:07 pm to D500MAG
quote:If that's true, the Right Step in Houston might have a bed for him as well - because he needs a new hobby or needs to grow the frick up.
He said earlier he was just trolling
Posted on 8/17/12 at 4:09 pm to RealityTiger
reality, did you go to the one in houston?
Posted on 8/17/12 at 4:12 pm to redfieldk717
No I think that's where TM is, at least from the article. Hope I didn't blow his anonymity. 
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