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re: TM7 could end up being the steal of the Draft
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:23 am to redfieldk717
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:23 am to redfieldk717
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its all about work ethic, im sorry you are too simple minded to understand that
Agreed.
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Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:24 am to redfieldk717
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he didnt play football for a year...wtf has he been doing?
Working on technique and working on covering skills. 2 things that are necessary for a corner. There is a reason only this site is talking about his bench reps.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:24 am to tiger11
there is no doubt he is an unbeleivable talent...my comment stemmed from the op and how well he is doing off the field.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:25 am to redfieldk717
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its all about work ethic, im sorry you are too simple minded to understand that
Like running a faster 40 then expected. Like having great technique on his drills? Thats work ethic. Nobody cares about bench.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:25 am to VegasPro
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Working on technique and working on covering skills. 2 things that are necessary for a corner. There is a reason only this site is talking about his bench reps.
so strength has nothing to do with playing football?
i could have the best technique in the world but if i am weak compared to the opposing player...no bueno
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:26 am to VegasPro
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Like running a faster 40 then expected
than who expected? i thought he would run faster
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:27 am to redfieldk717
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than who expected? i thought he would run faster
Well there you go. Many said if he runs 4.55 or better he moved up stock.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:28 am to redfieldk717
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so strength has nothing to do with playing football?
Bench =/= strength
Combination of alot of variable = strenth
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:28 am to redfieldk717
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than who expected? i thought he would run faster
Than most experts expected. He may not have put a lot of work into the bench but I think we proved his work ethic with the results he turned in at the combine yesterday.
Overall he improved his stock at the combine and his work ethic will be determined more through interviews than the bench press.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:28 am to VegasPro
I don't think people under-value his skills. People are just a little apprehensive about his off-the-field issues.
Would love to see him slip to the Texans or Cowboys.
Would love to see him slip to the Texans or Cowboys.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:28 am to VegasPro
im not trying to argue, because i know how good of a player he is...just talking strictly off the field stuff
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:29 am to VegasPro
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Bench =/= strength
4 reps is weak, no matter how you cut it
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:32 am to redfieldk717
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4 reps is weak, no matter how you cut it
I can hit a golf ball 290+ and I am 5'9 160 lbs. I cant bench 160 lbs right now. There are techniques you can do to improve strength. And also, with any NFL team, if they want him to bench more, they will have him at 15-20 reps within a month.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:35 am to VegasPro
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And also, with any NFL team, if they want him to bench more, they will have him at 15-20 reps within a month
exactly, but why isnt he already there? do you understand how little time each week he would have to put towards increasing his bench reps? VERY minimal relative to speed training and technique. he knew this was part of the combine way in advance.
i guess we just need to agree to disagree here
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:36 am to VegasPro
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I can hit a golf ball 290+ and I am 5'9 160 lbs. I cant bench 160 lbs right now. There are techniques you can do to improve strength. And also, with any NFL team, if they want him to bench more, they will have him at 15-20 reps within a month.
and there is also no opposing player going against you in golf...someone bigger faster and stronger with their own technique
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:36 am to redfieldk717
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do you understand how little time each week he would have to put towards increasing his bench reps? VERY minimal relative to speed training and technique. he knew this was part of the combine way in advance.
Do you understand that could possible decrease his quickness and speed?
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:36 am to The Mick
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You dont think strength helps?
He's strong enough to rip the ball out isn't he?
He doesn't need to be able to bench 400 to be a good corner
At some point there is a diminishing return on increases in these weight lifting numbers
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:38 am to VegasPro
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Do you understand that could possible decrease his quickness and speed?
i do, but that is not a good sign if it decreases his speed significantly.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:39 am to VegasPro
Bench press for db is overrated. The drills that I saw TM run showed that he has great change of direction, can locate the ball quickly. He has natural football instincts. His forty time was good, the only two issues that a NFL GM will have in regards to TM is his character and height. The best corner I saw was Millner
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:40 am to Powerman
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He's strong enough to rip the ball out isn't he?
I think some are thinking he is a press corner. Not sure I ever seem him press.
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