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re: Time to kill a myth that was once again created on the Rant

Posted on 12/30/18 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
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Posted on 12/30/18 at 2:37 pm to
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SEC Grapevine


Excellent post. And not just this one. All of your posts are well prepared and informative.

As others have already said in this thread, I like this guy (you) and you're easily one of my favorite posters.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40032 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 2:39 pm to
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They feel cheated and it's going to take more than some 10 win seasons to make up for it.

Let’s see O win 10 once before we start lamenting the fact that fans aren’t satisfied with “some 10 win seasons”.
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My question is if they're so influential why didn't they use some of their political powers to get their guy hired?

Who said anything about being influential?

The rest of your post is nonsense. Get a hold of yourself
Posted by SEC Grapevine
SEC
Member since Sep 2014
502 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 3:14 pm to
The thread is about the meaningless stat TOP and Rant Myths started by Dereck & Ben who both are paid to support Coach O and OC, defend the indefensible Offense, etc. One of their favorite refrains is the O-Line not giving the QB 3 or more seconds to throw. Two things here fall into the Myth category 1) O-Line is only a problem for LSU and if we had 'better players' that would fix things, 2) QBs should have 3-4 seconds to set, go through progressions and throw.

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The scheme was severely limited by Oline play. I don't understand why people couldn't see that. It's my belief as of now that the anti O crowd actually saw it but would rather ignore the lack of depth and slam the coaches.


The OLine: LSU vs ALA = no contest in the trenches.

If the OLine could just give Burrow 3 more seconds to survey the field, go through progessions, blah, blah, trenches.

The average time a QB has to throw the ball is 2.5 seconds. Anything more than that and Completion % drops off, sack rate goes up, as does % QB hurries. It is a constant with the variable becoming faster, not slower. "Build a wall" will not work.

This Trend information was through 2015 and things have gotten faster.






Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/30/18 at 4:59 pm to
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SEC Grapevine


My new favorite poster. The anti-Ree. And posting stats while he posts ghey pictures of his boss stretching.

Post more.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 5:02 pm to
Ahh yea because propaganda boy is the truth. Lmao
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 5:11 pm to
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The OLine: LSU vs ALA = no contest in the trenches.

If the OLine could just give Burrow 3 more seconds to survey the field, go through progessions, blah, blah, trenches.

The average time a QB has to throw the ball is 2.5 seconds. Anything more than that and Completion % drops off, sack rate goes up, as does % QB hurries. It is a constant with the variable becoming faster, not slower. "Build a wall" will not work.



Additionally, people think we need Bama type recruiting to get an o-line that can compete with them.

Our o-line recruiting is on par or better than 2/4 teams in the playoffs. ND and Bama's average rating was better.

Talent is there. It needs to be developed.
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 6:29 pm to
Tragic that I have to come here to see such thought out, objective criticism while ben and ree write the scripts for OTB, Sports Today.... and keep AFR closely monitored.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 6:59 pm to
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Additionally, people think we need Bama type recruiting to get an o-line that can compete with them.

Our o-line recruiting is on par or better than 2/4 teams in the playoffs. ND and Bama's average rating was better.

Talent is there. It needs to be developed


So now you all are singing the praises of the offensive line. You don't need talent along the offensive line, experience is overrated and QBs don't need time. Hell it's more fun getting slung around and slammed to the ground. Joe Burrow was sacked 34 times. I think only one or two QBs took more sacks in the SEC. At least you don't have to wonder why you get called names or I laugh at your asses. Keep posting nonsense and I'll keep laughing.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:02 pm to
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the OLine could just give Burrow 3 more seconds to survey the field, go through progessions, blah, blah, trenches


Holy shite. You are hilarious. You're actually arguing that the Oline was fine. The peanut gallery is cheering that ignorant shite on.
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:03 pm to
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Joe Burrow was sacked 34 times.


So the only thing that can lead to a sack is missed block?


Maybe I was just too intoxicated when I heard former LSU great QB, matt Flynn, saying that LSU needed to scheme around that with more quick passes instead of bringing in more people to block.
This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 7:06 pm
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:06 pm to
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The average time a QB has to throw the ball is 2.5 seconds. Anything more than that and Completion % drops off, sack rate goes up, as does % QB hurries. It is a constant with the variable becoming faster, not slower. "Build a wall" will not work



Another profound statement. Who could've possibly known? The more time a QB holds on to the ball the better the percentage that something bad is going to happen. That's some groundbreaking stuff right there.
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:08 pm to
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Another profound statement. Who could've possibly known? The more time a QB holds on to the ball the better the percentage that something bad is going to happen. That's some groundbreaking stuff right there


Then bringing in more people to block and running less routes would take longer for people to get open and thus be counter intuitive, no?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:10 pm to
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Maybe I was just too intoxicated when I heard former LSU great QB, matt Flynn, saying that LSU needed to scheme around that with more quick passes instead of bringing in more people to block


Quick while you've got that thought in your head send coach E an email with your radical quick pass theory in it so he can utilize your breakthrough in the bowl game. LSU will be forever in your debt. You saved LSU'S year.
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:17 pm to
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Quick while you've got that thought in your head send coach E an email with your radical quick pass theory in it so he can utilize your breakthrough in the bowl game. LSU will be forever in your debt. You saved LSU'S yea


If he fired a modern Briles award finalist for trying to introduce him to something post 2003 USC (bc O still thinks they won the natty), I doubt he'd listen to a guy who just got out the NFLs suggestions, especially coming from me.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:19 pm to
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The peanut gallery is cheering that ignorant shite on.



Who is this peanut gallery that you speak of?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:26 pm to
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nherited a loaded Roster


Damn I'm glad to hear this. Can you name these uber talented players on the offensive side of the ball, in particular the offensive line. I knew something was up there. O and E have been hiding the talent.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:35 pm to
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So now you all are singing the praises of the offensive line. You don't need talent along the offensive line,


We have talent. Our linemen are certainly no less talented than OU's or Clemson's linemen.

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experience is overrated and QBs don't need time.


Who's saying that?
This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 7:37 pm
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:45 pm to
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Can you name these uber talented players on the offensive side of the ball, in particular the offensive line. I knew something was up there. O and E have been hiding the talent.


Way to push our players down in order to prop up O and Ensminger. And then you wonder why nearly every single person on this board thinks you are a moron.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4328 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:45 pm to
I agree with most of what you are saying, I just think the OT position is recruited wrong and they get more of a guard than prototypical OT's and that's where they are lacking the most.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39748 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:49 pm to
Holy shite. This post looks like it took some serious time to put together. Damn
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