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re: Time for a change at the leadoff spot

Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:16 pm to
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. Jacoby is a better hitter and its time to give him his fair shot.



he's 4 for 16 in the last 4 games against pitchers with a pulse. With zero walks. We dont play Sacred Heart every game.

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Watkins isnt getting it done, regardless of what you claim or how close he is to others in OBP.


answer this. is .411 a good OBP, or not?

is that suitable for a leadoff hitter?


I am not trying to twist anything. That is cold hard facts. If you are too young to understand what I am saying, then so be it.

he's 2nd in runs. Tied for 1st in walks and stolen bases. He is right there with everyone else in terms of getting on base. It doesnt matter that he is hitting .260




Posted by CROWN N COKE
NELA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:16 pm to
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his OBP is over .400


SO IS EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE TEAM, DUMBASS!!!!

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You are clueless


Posted by Cajun Revolution
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:17 pm to
You hurt my head. Stop posting.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:17 pm to
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Then what was the school of thought when Watkins was put at leadoff for the 1st time?



Watkins has shown the abilities of a very good leadoff hitter the moment he stepped on campus last season. He hasnt hit anywhere else, and for good reason. He was a great leadoff hitter in HS and at LSU-E. It's a no brainer. Do you really need me to lay of the "school of thought"?
Posted by lsutigertalk
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:17 pm to
Watkins is a great hitter at times, but he is kind of looking like Willy Maze Haze in my opinion. Put the ball on the ground man.
This post was edited on 3/18/11 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Boh
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:18 pm to
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again, his OBP is over .400

Lester, I'm with you on his abilities. Watkins is great for all of the lead off hitter's responsibilities. His first inning at bat showed how dangerous he is. I'd like to know his BA on balls but in play (shows his deadly speed).

OBP is very important, and the team has shown that with Watkins at lead off, it's successful.

It obviously isn't a good thing for anyone to go 1 for 5, and he does strike out a lot, though. I'd stick with him at lead off unless his liability proves to outweigh what the team benefits from him. The other option I'd want at leadoff is Jones. I wouldn't mind seeing Nola and Rhymes switched as well.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:19 pm to
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SO IS EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE TEAM, DUMBASS!!!!




tell Mr Former Leadoff hitter with bad knees, who do you put at leadoff then?
Posted by CROWN N COKE
NELA
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:20 pm to
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Lester Earl


OK Dude. You win. You're right and I'm wrong.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:24 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Boh
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:26 pm to
Mainieri probably wants to see how Jones does against the SEC competition before making a switch, which is why I think we'll see Watkins at lead off tomorrow and Sunday. A 10:1 k:bb ratio isn't what you want from that spot, and Jones might need to be eased into it and develop some discipline. I wouldn't have a problem with him leading off if we lose more games.

Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:26 pm to
you need to wait to see how jones adjusts to good pitching before vaulting him to leadoff
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:29 pm to
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Also you can keep bringing up one bad weekend from Jacoby, like I just said its ONE bad weekend.



point is, he was bound to cool off. No freshman is that good.

he'll prob hit around .350 before the year is over. Still great for any player, much less a FR. It is only a matter of time before his numbers drop.


in the 4 games vs CSF/FL he is 4 for 16. He has drawn no walks. And he strikes out nearly as much as Watkins does.

shite he has ONE walk all season in 18 games.


Now when his bat starts to cool off, like it has, and he can't get on base via the walk, what good is he hitting leadoff? Why put the pressure on a FR that is about to start the SEC schedule?


You know, yeah, he maybe should be moved up to the middle of the order. But PM has kept him in the 9 hole for a reason. He doesn't want too much pressure on the kid, because he knew he was thriving hitting in that spot with little pressure.

he also knows Watkins is a veteran hitter who is just about everything you ask for in a leadoff hitter.

This post was edited on 3/18/11 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36722 posts
Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:31 pm to
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he also knows Watkins is a veteran hitter who is just about everything you ask for in a leadoff hitter.

wish he'd put the ball in play more, but no sure who else could hit leadoff

need to leave him there until someone else proves they are better against good competition
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:32 pm to
Obviously hes going to cool off, no freshman is gonna hit .430 all season. But saying that, hes not going to fall off the face of the earth and will still hit well over .300. His OBP will also most likely remain over .400. Clearly this is a matter of opinion, so Ill just agree to disagree because this is going nowhere
Posted by CROWN N COKE
NELA
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:34 pm to
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this is going nowhere


quote:

msutiger


let it go, man.

Arguing with Lester is like wrestling with a pig in the mud. After a while you realize that the pig is enjoying it.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:35 pm to
I have no problem with him stating his opinion. Atleast hes posting facts to back his claims. Thats very rare on the rant.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:36 pm to
Crown, you shouldn't be mad at me because you can't have come up with any argument besides "he sucks!!!!!".


but you are wrestling with a pig in the mud? Lol.


i've posted a lot of facts that back up what i think. You have only thrown out stupid insults. Good night.


BTW, who would you hit leadoff??
This post was edited on 3/18/11 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Tigerfan7218
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:37 pm to
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who would you hit leadoff??


I know you weren't directing this at me, but I'll answer anyways. I don't say pull Trey right now, let him try to find a rhythm. If he doesn't by early April maybe we can give Spencer Ware a shot after the Spring Game?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:38 pm to
i dont know if that would be a good time to throw a FR with little playing time into the mix and bat leadoff.

some will say im being a contrarian, but that is tough to ask of Spencer Ware.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/18/11 at 10:38 pm to
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answer this. is .411 a good OBP, or not?



His OBP is now .397
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